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Old 01-22-2011, 08:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a list of mods I want to have done to my 07 Warrior. One of the mods is 6 degree triple trees. I would like to have the rake of the bike extended for a better look. I was at a dealership with my wife and the sales guy and I was talking about raking out the warrior. He brought up a good point.

If I rake out the warrior will that give me problems with the rear of the bike and cause the bike frame problems later on down the line? I thought about that and I had to bring it to my warrior brothers. So if someone who have the 6 degree triple trees on their warrior shine some light and wisdom on this I would really appreciate it.

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Old 01-22-2011, 08:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have a 6* rake and no problems here, would actually like to go out farther. I dont see where the issue would be..? If anything you would increase the pressure on the neck of the bike not the back. There is a member on here that has a 14* and I am sure there are others. I would like to hear other opinions on this as well. I just cant see how it would affect the rear...
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you will do the 6 degree trees and never look back or have an issue with the back or the frame of the bike unless you crash the bike or something,btk572
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Thanks for replying. So when you got your triple trees, you didn't have to do anything to the rear at all?
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there have been quite a few on here that have gone to the extremes on the rake and I have never heard of frame problems. There was RatPhlem who had some crazy rake and Backlay9 who also went out quite a bit as well and many many others with 6 and even 7 degree trees around. I intend on adding them to mine this year and have no worries about it damaging anything.
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Thanks for replying. So when you got your triple trees, you didn't have to do anything to the rear at all?
No, there is nothing that you need to do to the rear.
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Wouldnt changing the rake result in a change in trail?
I was always of the understanding that if you extended the rake on any bike you needed to adjust the trail to maintain the same steering/handling geomertry...

I'm no expert though and havn't ever changed the rake, so cant say what the "real world" result would be.
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Wouldnt changing the rake result in a change in trail?
I was always of the understanding that if you extended the rake on any bike you needed to adjust the trail to maintain the same steering/handling geomertry...

I'm no expert though and havn't ever changed the rake, so cant say what the "real world" result would be.
I raked my old harley - cut the neck, put in a wedge and at the same time stretched my frame 6 inches and had no handling problems at all. It was almost a foot longer than OEM so from a stop it was a little harder to turn right at a corner, but other than that it just lowered the bike in the front as I kept the stock fork tubes. Cannot really answer you question about the trail but from an actual practical handling point of view I lived it with my old bike and once the coffers are plumped up a bit I will be going with 6 degrees on my warrior. Maybe the lowering of the back with the lowering of the front provided by the additional rake does something to the trail?
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The Trail is a result of the rake, The distance from the center of the axel to where the line of the rake hits the ground.
Trail in this case does not mean the trailing part of the bike.
The only thing you are doing is putting more strain on the neck but they can handle it. The farther you rake the longer the trail becomes which in turn makes it harder to turn at slow speeds or any time it requires actually turning the front wheel.

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look more into the rake and trail calculater, if you dont change the neck angle but add 6 degree trees it will actually shorten the trail of the bike . when you add the third angle to the steering it can confuse you some . you will have fork angle,neck angle,and then the added tree angle. trust me it will shorten the trail to about 2.75 inches from 5 or so on a warrior,btk572
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