i got some new parts today.

[iowawarrior]

well, i got a few new parts today. thanks to 07midnight57. sorry for your loss man. now i gotta figure out what to do with them. i don't have room or heat in my little shed and i don't have any idea of how to install them anyway. i talked to a shop and they said about 400 bucks, which means 700.00, and i don't really want someone else to do it. the dealer is out of the question. they said 12hrs {or more} at 65.00 per. plus i talked to the local "head" guy and he said they're like three weeks out and it only gets worse from here on out. that'd be o.k if i had it here at home because there are other things i could be doing to it. there's no point in getting a map put on it until i get a better clutch, is there. i trust the shop guys for the map. and for the clutch, all i need is the new plate/springs, yes? i could probably do that. plus i'm waiting for the dealer to tell me what they'll take for a "new" 2-1-2 pipe that they have on a leftover '08. i saw today that you can get a V+H propipe for 450.00. is the 2-1-2 better or are they gonna be about the same. i know a guy that has a auto shop. i asked if i could bring it up there and just have him watch over me on some things. i know. cars ain't bikes. but this is just "nuts and bolts" stuff. i have a manual and of course , all of you. i like that idea the best, but it'd still be staying at a crummy little shop for weeks on end. arrgh. anyway, should i work on getting the clutch done, then do the motor, with the heads, then the pipe, then the map. then start looking for rear tires. if i do all of this, i should be pretty close to 100 hp and maybe 120tqe. does that sound right? cams,pistons,gaskets,springs,stage4 ECU

[active1951]

Get Joey to help you, y'all could do that in one weekend. Jus kiddin.

Seriously, you have many tasks. You seem like a common sense kinda guy so you already know to keep things CLEAN and ORGANIZED.
I am new to the V-Twin world, but it looks straight forward compared to overhead cam engines.
Good Luck and I will be watchin this post, even though I am satisfied with my "stocker" for now.
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[skybejef]

I have installed that exact setup in mine and installed everything but the springs myself. Did not have a spring compressor. If you got a trailer drive up to Sioux Falls and I can definatly help you install it. Is not a to bad of a job. I am currently just running the stage4 ecu on mine. Unhooked the PC3 after trying many maps and it just seems to run best on the ECU. I am planning on installing a duel 02 sensor with gage and just do my own custom maps.

[iowawarrior]

that's a great offer but it's still gonna be weeks if i want to have the heads done, which i kind of do want. i'm curious though. are you saying that IF i get it all together with a new pipe and all, that i could just plug in the new ECU and it would run fine? also any thoughts on yamaha's pipe over the V+H propipe. i think the yamaha pipe maybe looks a little better.

[scawein]

Originally Posted by skybejef

I have installed that exact setup in mine and installed everything but the springs myself. Did not have a spring compressor. If you got a trailer drive up to Sioux Falls and I can definatly help you install it. Is not a to bad of a job. I am currently just running the stage4 ecu on mine. Unhooked the PC3 after trying many maps and it just seems to run best on the ECU. I am planning on installing a duel 02 sensor with gage and just do my own custom maps.

The forum shows it colors again....you rock Sky.....

This is an offer that you should take. He has done ti already...BTW. I used a big wood clamp to compress my springs, worked great with my wife helping. The top end is extremely straight forward. I have not done the cams but that should be ok with Sky around.

Clean and organized for sure. My best suggestion is you get a sh*tload of bags. BAG AND TAG EVERYTHING. If you will be taking a bit of time, this is extremely crucial IMO.

You will like the result.

[skybejef]

Originally Posted by iowawarrior

that's a great offer but it's still gonna be weeks if i want to have the heads done, which i kind of do want. i'm curious though. are you saying that IF i get it all together with a new pipe and all, that i could just plug in the new ECU and it would run fine? also any thoughts on yamaha's pipe over the V+H propipe. i think the yamaha pipe maybe looks a little better.

Either pipe will work fine. I would say go with the speed* pipe just so it does not match mine. JK but either will work fine. I am sure the tuning is not perfect with just the ecu but it does seem closer than any of the micky mouse generic maps I have found. Also do not want to pay for or let some guy rock on my bike for hours on a dyno only to have the map need to be redone after I make my next change. Are you having your heads done locally or sending them to PR?

[kja]

Who ever does the head work will most likely want to set up the heads, just drop off the springs with them. Might want to pick up some new valve seals as they will probably want those also. You can leave the speed* ecu off and down load a map from Dyno jet. The map I used is labeled " Yamaha power up kit with open velocity stacks with Propipe. It's a little rich but has no hesitations or flat spots and I knock down 40+mpg. My mods are pr standard bore pistons, pr springs, speed* cams with yamaha lifters, mild head work, and churchkeys intake with Propipe.

[skybejef]

Originally Posted by kja

Who ever does the head work will most likely want to set up the heads, just drop off the springs with them. Might want to pick up some new valve seals as they will probably want those also. You can leave the speed* ecu off and down load a map from Dyno jet. The map I used is labeled " Yamaha power up kit with open velocity stacks with Propipe. It's a little rich but has no hesitations or flat spots and I knock down 40+mpg. My mods are pr standard bore pistons, pr springs, speed* cams with yamaha lifters, mild head work, and churchkeys intake with Propipe.

Have to disagree. Go with the speed* ecu for sure. Those extra rpms is where the HP is made. Also it is already setup for that config. Have had mine on a dyno and the HP keeps climbing all the way to the 5500 redline.

[07midnight57]

Originally Posted by kja

Who ever does the head work will most likely want to set up the heads, just drop off the springs with them. Might want to pick up some new valve seals as they will probably want those also. You can leave the speed* ecu off and down load a map from Dyno jet. The map I used is labeled " Yamaha power up kit with open velocity stacks with Propipe. It's a little rich but has no hesitations or flat spots and I knock down 40+mpg. My mods are pr standard bore pistons, pr springs, speed* cams with yamaha lifters, mild head work, and churchkeys intake with Propipe.

Originally Posted by skybejef

Have to disagree. Go with the speed* ecu for sure. Those extra rpms is where the HP is made. Also it is already setup for that config. Have had mine on a dyno and the HP keeps climbing all the way to the 5500 redline.

It also adjusts timing, which is where the most important power gains and driveability comes from. So in kja's case your losing out on power to be made which is pointless after dropping well over grand on parts to just leave out the most important one. That's like saying you can live fine without a brain because your can bench press 400lbs

[iowawarrior]

Originally Posted by scawein

The forum shows it colors again....you rock Sky.....

This is an offer that you should take. He has done ti already...BTW. I used a big wood clamp to compress my springs, worked great with my wife helping. The top end is extremely straight forward. I have not done the cams but that should be ok with Sky around.

Clean and organized for sure. My best suggestion is you get a sh*tload of bags. BAG AND TAG EVERYTHING. If you will be taking a bit of time, this is extremely crucial IMO.

You will like the result.

i know it's a great offer but the logistics are problematic. i work on the weekend,most people work during the week. sky probably does too. so right there... plus i either drag it back down here, waiting for headwork, then back up there again, or i say,"um yeah, hey man can i leave my bike in your garage for a month or so?" HA ! !. i did a headgasket on a little car that i bought, and the bag and tag thing was exactly what i did. it worked out fine.