opinions on these .40 cals?

[yellowbee]

I want to thank everone for the help. I would like to have a glock but would rather stay cheaper.... as long as I can get a reliable weapon. That said Budsgunshop has the Beretta PX4 for $399. I need to check that one out in person.

[Shag]

Originally Posted by yellowbee

I want to thank everone for the help. I would like to have a glock but would rather stay cheaper.... as long as I can get a reliable weapon. That said Budsgunshop has the Beretta PX4 for $399. I need to check that one out in person.

If you want inexpensive and reliable with plenty o' stopping power then here you go:
Taurus 605 .357mag 2" Blue $341.00 SHIPS FREE

[BIGDADDY1966]

Very Nice choice Shaq!!!!

[p-wii]

I bought my glock 23 from gander mountain for 350. It was a "display" model and sold as used.
My taurus pt111(9mm) has a very long and heavy trigger. But i have fired 6 boxes of different ammo in one sitting and it never misfired.
If i had to pick one gun to own it would be the glock just for the better trigger. The springfield xd is a great gun also i loved the one i shot.


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[arizonawarrior]

I shot the 36 at the range for an hour, its just enough thinner that grip felt awkward and tenuous when firing and then bringing back onto target. It didn't seem to me there was going to be enough difference in carry visibility to make up for the grip difference, and adding an over-grip brings it out to 1.25-inches which is a virtual wash with the G30. Also, like you said the G36 is a six shooter and the G30 is 10 but the G30 also has a 13 magazine easily available (but the 13 round mag leaves a big bulge when carrying).

The G30 is 1.27-inches thick (32.5mm).
The G36 is 1.13-inches thich (28.5mm).

Originally Posted by Shag

While we're on the subject, does anyone here own a Glock model 36 and if so do you have anything to say about it? 6+1 .45 caliber. I like the 10+1 capacity of the 30, but I'm thinking the considerably thinner 36 would be more tempting to carry frequently. Looks like they cost about the same.

[arizonawarrior]

Sweet gun! I still keep my S&W .357 MAG revolver, had it since maybe 1979 something like that. Its not a snub but a service revolver, blued, its seen lots of bangs and is still in real good condition.

I admit that one of the things I love about it is the flame out the barrel hehe. But the weapon kicks like a mule since its a solid frame and no springs to soak-up the shock. No surprise I shoot a lot of 38-specials thru it for just that reason, and run a box of .357 MAG's every once in awhile just to stay in practice because those slugs will cut thru a lot more than people realize.

Originally Posted by Shag

If you want inexpensive and reliable with plenty o' stopping power then here you go:
Taurus 605 .357mag 2" Blue $341.00 SHIPS FREE

[warrior04bama]

Carry gun i keep with on The Warrior is Glock30 .45acp works well for compact ccw...Ad my weapon i carry all the time is the Glock23 .40.. I did change sights and did some other work on them to suit my needs for carry and work

[jamesd]

Originally Posted by arizonawarrior

I shot the 36 at the range for an hour, its just enough thinner that grip felt awkward and tenuous when firing and then bringing back onto target. It didn't seem to me there was going to be enough difference in carry visibility to make up for the grip difference, and adding an over-grip brings it out to 1.25-inches which is a virtual wash with the G30. Also, like you said the G36 is a six shooter and the G30 is 10 but the G30 also has a 13 magazine easily available (but the 13 round mag leaves a big bulge when carrying).

The G30 is 1.27-inches thick (32.5mm).
The G36 is 1.13-inches thich (28.5mm).

not sure what holster you are using but the Galco King Tuk IWB is great

Galco holsters; Holsters; Gun holster, pistol holsters, western holsters, shoulder holsters, leather holster and Glock holsters

[arizonawarrior]

The reason the G30 with a 13-round mag isn't so concealed-carry friendly is the extra grip length sticking straight out the back it bulges the shirt so have to wear a heavy coat to cover it up. A different waist-carry holster won't change much when it comes to grip length, at least for me. I carry my G30 with a 10-mag which is enough shorter to make a nice concealment package. All that being said, a serpa type holster is not the best concealed carry holster, there are others that lay flatter and conceal that little bit better, but the serpa type has a couple features that make it better for me imo and I give-up a small amount of flatness in that exchange even with the 10-mag. I also have a pocket holster but I'm looking for a better one.

So for the G30 I'm using the below Blackhawk serpa holster the most. Working on things, and just doing what I like to do, I get into conditions where it could be jostled out and fall which would not be good, so the button-lock is very handy. Works great when riding too, assuming its ever necessary. And this design with the G30 provides for a natural draw with my index finger indexed along the slide on draw and NOT on the trigger. That's important, and it only took me a day to practice myself into the correct draw because its set-up to be almost completely natural.

This Blackhawk holster comes with both a belt and a paddle mount but imo the paddle is useless even though its draw-angle-adjustable.

[Shag]

Originally Posted by arizonawarrior

But the weapon kicks like a mule since its a solid frame and no springs to soak-up the shock. No surprise I shoot a lot of 38-specials thru it for just that reason, and run a box of .357 MAG's every once in awhile just to stay in practice because those slugs will cut thru a lot more than people realize.

Yep... Interesting to read about "stopping power." Don't get me wrong... I'm not prejudiced. I like all calibers.

Quote: "The famous 125 grain .357 JHP bullet, the most effective one shot stopper of all handgun loads, penetrates 13.25" in ordinance gelatin and produces a football shaped stretch cavity. This is how the very best bullets perform. And bullet performance has a great effect on stopping power."
source: Guide to Stopping Power

.357 mag beats out .45ACP in one-shot stop %:
An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power

Quote: "A 125 grain Semi-jacketed hollow-point bullet loaded for .357 magnum can deliver 427 foot pounds of energy at 50 yards, while a 124 grain jacketed hollow-point bullet loaded in 9mm Luger can deliver 291 foot pounds at 50 yards. A 185 grain jacketed hollow-point bullet loaded in .45 ACP can deliver 372 foot pounds at 50 yards."
source: TFS Magnum - Archives: Handgun Ballistics: Comparing Stopping Power