Experiences with Sinful Cycle Parts and Cruiser Performance - Road Star Warrior Forum : Yamaha Star Warrior Forums

Dutch_Warrior · 09-11-2012, 04:34 PM

Me and another Dutch Warrior rider ordered a set of CPH-1120 handlebars from Sinful Cycle Parts and all was good. We got the handlebars in a fair amount of time and the bars look stunning.

Therefore I recommended Sinful Cycle Parts to another Dutch Warrior rider who was in the market for a cool set of handlebars. He ordered the same CPH-1120 handlebars about 3 months ago, paid for it by credit card, but never received the item. At first the salesperson (Bryan Wiley) answered his e-mails and apologized for the delay, telling him that he wanted to send a perfect set of handlebars and that the ones he got in didn't meet the quality standards. However, in the last months he got no response to any of his e-mails or phone calls.

Has anyone had that experience with them? From what I read on the forum, Cruiser Performance has quite a good reputation. That was one of the reasons to go shop with them.

The contact person within Sinful Cycle Parts was Bryan Wiley, who now seems to use an e-mail address of Cruiser Performance. Are those 2 companies related or did he change jobs?

Any comment and/or advice related to this subject is greatly appreciated, since my friend is still waiting for his handlebars.....

idontknow · 09-11-2012, 08:14 PM

I had actually read fairly bad reviews about cruiser performance with a few good ones sprinkled in. As far as sinful parts.....wasn't he selling bars on ebay and on our forums for a while?

idontknow · 09-11-2012, 08:22 PM

Here we go.....here's the for sale thread he had

Cruiser Performance T-Bars for sale - Black

Dunecraz · 09-11-2012, 08:33 PM

Earlier this year, I contacted Brian @ Sinful Cycles and after talking with him I placed an order for two chrome bars. My first mistake was paying in full with my Credit Card even though he mentioned they hadn't been sent to chrome plating but he assured me they would be by the end of the week, and in the mail next week.

About 2 weeks later, I called to find out what was going on with my order. "I got your bars right here, going in the mail tomorrow."

To make a long story short, a couple weeks later I called him wondering where my bars are. My bars that were "right here" were not actually my bars. They were someone elses. "Don't worry, I haven't forgot about yours, I am looking at your name & order on the board right now. Sorry for the delays. My chrome platers are super busy right now."

About 1 1/2 months from the time the order was placed & several attempts of getting ahold of him on the phone, and talking with him probably 5 to 10 times and being told it was the chrome platers fault for the looooooong delay due to them being very busy, I still didn't have my bars. Every conversation ended with the same phrase; "they will be sent out Friday. I am picking up the bars from the platers." I would ask for a tracking number which I never would received. I asked if he could throw in a couple of t-shirts because of the delay, and he said sure. He even asked what sizes.

Still no bars. I finally contacted my C.C. to check my options about disputing the charges since it was coming up on the 60 days deadline for disputing the charges. I called Brian back and told him I would be disputing the charge with my credit card company if I did not receive them by a certain date. He told me he put them in the mail yesterday. I asked about the shirts, and he said he put them in there.

The package arrived, opened the box, no shirts, (not surprised) looked at the bars. Definitely far from show quality, but I also got a good price on them. A few nicks here and there and where the welds are looked the worst. Not sure if its due to a poor weld job, or poor chrome plating process. Both bars had about the same imperfections, but one was more noticeable to the point I would have returned it, but my buddy was ok with it.

After all the B.S. dealing with this clown, I wished I had bought from someone else and paid retail. I figured it wasn't worth the stress of dealing with this dude anymore, so I kept the bars and didn't call him back. Since riding season had started by the time I received the bars, I decided to put the packaging back on them to protect them, and put them on my shelf to be installed in the winter.

WOW, that took entirely WAY to long to type out on my phone. Whew, I need a beer!

Mother · 09-11-2012, 08:58 PM

I don't have much experience to share yet. I ordered a set of bars just last week though so I will be sure to post updates on my experience.

Dunecraz · 09-11-2012, 09:01 PM

A few pics of the blemishes. Like I say, Not show quality, but they were a good price. I wish I had pics of the other bars. The blemishes were more noticeable on those ones.

tribalMR2 · 09-11-2012, 09:22 PM

Never had experience with sinful cycle, but have bought two bars from racer2000 which is the link that idontknow provided. The black ones on my bike now are good. I also bought a chrome from him at first but never installed it because I started going a different direction with my bike. I'm going to sell my chrome ones soon. No problems with the black ones an the chrome ones have good chrome as far as I can tell. I haven't look at them lately but I can check the weld on them if needed.

idontknow · 09-11-2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tribalMR2

Never had experience with sinful cycle, but have bought two bars from racer2000 which is the link that idontknow provided. The black ones on my bike now are good. I also bought a chrome from him at first but never installed it because I started going a different direction with my bike. I'm going to sell my chrome ones soon. No problems with the black ones an the chrome ones have good chrome as far as I can tell. I haven't look at them lately but I can check the weld on them if needed.

I do believe racer2000=sinful cycle. (Same person)

1256day · 09-11-2012, 09:45 PM

When I 1st joined the 4m a few years ago, I wanted a set of CP bars. I looked up their website and noticed they were in Orange County CA, a few miles from my house. At that time the owner "Brian, I think" was a one man operation. Since I didn't know the pullback or rise I wanted he said sure come on down and take a look. "I've got plenty of blems and 2nd's."

I ended up getting a set of TT bars that same week from a 4m member and never went down to check it out.

As I recall the address was on the web site. Now its not. Also at the time, "Brian" was hard to get a hold of. "Always out to the Chromer"

If somebody knows how to look up a address from a phone number I could drive down there Monday and see whats going on. Not that I could accomplish anything, but at least see whats going on and report back.

This is when we need SemperFit on the scene. I'm sure if he flexed one of those Popeye Fore Arms that would get things rolling. Just kidding! LOL!

G

rcoligan2 · 09-11-2012, 10:02 PM

Well now I feel bad for saying put racer4200 on the good to deal list.my transaction went smooth,bars look ok.

The DarkMidKnightWarrior

09-11-2012, 04:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dutch_Warrior Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gouda, The Netherlands Posts: 1,446	Experiences with Sinful Cycle Parts and Cruiser Performance Me and another Dutch Warrior rider ordered a set of CPH-1120 handlebars from Sinful Cycle Parts and all was good. We got the handlebars in a fair amount of time and the bars look stunning. Therefore I recommended Sinful Cycle Parts to another Dutch Warrior rider who was in the market for a cool set of handlebars. He ordered the same CPH-1120 handlebars about 3 months ago, paid for it by credit card, but never received the item. At first the salesperson (Bryan Wiley) answered his e-mails and apologized for the delay, telling him that he wanted to send a perfect set of handlebars and that the ones he got in didn't meet the quality standards. However, in the last months he got no response to any of his e-mails or phone calls. Has anyone had that experience with them? From what I read on the forum, Cruiser Performance has quite a good reputation. That was one of the reasons to go shop with them. The contact person within Sinful Cycle Parts was Bryan Wiley, who now seems to use an e-mail address of Cruiser Performance. Are those 2 companies related or did he change jobs? Any comment and/or advice related to this subject is greatly appreciated, since my friend is still waiting for his handlebars..... __________________

09-11-2012, 08:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dunecraz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hyrum, Utah Posts: 617	Earlier this year, I contacted Brian @ Sinful Cycles and after talking with him I placed an order for two chrome bars. My first mistake was paying in full with my Credit Card even though he mentioned they hadn't been sent to chrome plating but he assured me they would be by the end of the week, and in the mail next week. About 2 weeks later, I called to find out what was going on with my order. "I got your bars right here, going in the mail tomorrow." To make a long story short, a couple weeks later I called him wondering where my bars are. My bars that were "right here" were not actually my bars. They were someone elses. "Don't worry, I haven't forgot about yours, I am looking at your name & order on the board right now. Sorry for the delays. My chrome platers are super busy right now." About 1 1/2 months from the time the order was placed & several attempts of getting ahold of him on the phone, and talking with him probably 5 to 10 times and being told it was the chrome platers fault for the looooooong delay due to them being very busy, I still didn't have my bars. Every conversation ended with the same phrase; "they will be sent out Friday. I am picking up the bars from the platers." I would ask for a tracking number which I never would received. I asked if he could throw in a couple of t-shirts because of the delay, and he said sure. He even asked what sizes. Still no bars. I finally contacted my C.C. to check my options about disputing the charges since it was coming up on the 60 days deadline for disputing the charges. I called Brian back and told him I would be disputing the charge with my credit card company if I did not receive them by a certain date. He told me he put them in the mail yesterday. I asked about the shirts, and he said he put them in there. The package arrived, opened the box, no shirts, (not surprised) looked at the bars. Definitely far from show quality, but I also got a good price on them. A few nicks here and there and where the welds are looked the worst. Not sure if its due to a poor weld job, or poor chrome plating process. Both bars had about the same imperfections, but one was more noticeable to the point I would have returned it, but my buddy was ok with it. After all the B.S. dealing with this clown, I wished I had bought from someone else and paid retail. I figured it wasn't worth the stress of dealing with this dude anymore, so I kept the bars and didn't call him back. Since riding season had started by the time I received the bars, I decided to put the packaging back on them to protect them, and put them on my shelf to be installed in the winter. WOW, that took entirely WAY to long to type out on my phone. Whew, I need a beer! __________________ The Earth Is Full - Go Home. Knowledgebase DIY Redhorse

09-11-2012, 09:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
1256day Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Chino Hills & Barstow CA Posts: 3,492	When I 1st joined the 4m a few years ago, I wanted a set of CP bars. I looked up their website and noticed they were in Orange County CA, a few miles from my house. At that time the owner "Brian, I think" was a one man operation. Since I didn't know the pullback or rise I wanted he said sure come on down and take a look. "I've got plenty of blems and 2nd's." I ended up getting a set of TT bars that same week from a 4m member and never went down to check it out. As I recall the address was on the web site. Now its not. Also at the time, "Brian" was hard to get a hold of. "Always out to the Chromer" If somebody knows how to look up a address from a phone number I could drive down there Monday and see whats going on. Not that I could accomplish anything, but at least see whats going on and report back. This is when we need SemperFit on the scene. I'm sure if he flexed one of those Popeye Fore Arms that would get things rolling. Just kidding! LOL! G __________________ Group Rides

09-11-2012, 10:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
rcoligan2 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lawrenceburg,KY. Posts: 1,882	Well now I feel bad for saying put racer4200 on the good to deal list.my transaction went smooth,bars look ok. The DarkMidKnightWarrior __________________ DARK MIDKNIGHT WARRIOR

09-11-2012, 08:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
idontknow Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: minnesota Posts: 406	I had actually read fairly bad reviews about cruiser performance with a few good ones sprinkled in. As far as sinful parts.....wasn't he selling bars on ebay and on our forums for a while?

09-11-2012, 08:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
idontknow Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: minnesota Posts: 406	Here we go.....here's the for sale thread he had Cruiser Performance T-Bars for sale - Black

09-11-2012, 08:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mother Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 145	I don't have much experience to share yet. I ordered a set of bars just last week though so I will be sure to post updates on my experience.

09-11-2012, 09:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
tribalMR2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: covina Posts: 893	Never had experience with sinful cycle, but have bought two bars from racer2000 which is the link that idontknow provided. The black ones on my bike now are good. I also bought a chrome from him at first but never installed it because I started going a different direction with my bike. I'm going to sell my chrome ones soon. No problems with the black ones an the chrome ones have good chrome as far as I can tell. I haven't look at them lately but I can check the weld on them if needed.

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