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Custom key topper. "FrankenKey"

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#1 ·
This is a pic of the key that Frankenstien ordered.He has moved his ing. to the left side between the cyls.Please post a pic of it installed Oliver.I have had a couple of the guys from our *days trip ask me to post a pic.So there you go.
It is carved from antler,I usually do skulls, eagle,bear and wolf heads.I am wanting to donate a skull key for the October site give away...maybe someone in charge will get back to me on that one.[/emoticons/emotion-5.gif]
Wasn't sure where to post this.But it is a mod./acc.
Please forgive me if I put it in the wrong spot.
I Didn't put it the Classified because it's not For Sale.
The pic is a little blurry.Maybe when Oliver gets back he will post a better shot.
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#3 ·
This is the COOLEST key you have every seen. If I would not have been traveling the past couple of days I would have posted already. It looks even better in person. I LOVE IT!

Thank you very much for this very cool Franken Mod! [/emoticons/emotion-2.gif]

Guys go get your keys made. Randy does awesome skulls and snakes and all kinds of stuff. And as you can see he can pull off just about anything.
 
#16 ·
Originally posted by faustus

Mine was custom made and hand painted. These are definately not sold on Ebay and definately not cheaply made and definately not plastic. Nice key by the way. Mine is in my gallery.
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Fautus the link that you put up clearly states they are "plastic".And they are sold on ebay.You mention something about your key not being "cheaply made" ,not me.But whatever dude.
This thread was to show what I made for Frankenstien so some of the other brothers that where at stardays could see the final product.
 
#18 ·
quote:Originally posted by faustus

Mine was custom made and hand painted. These are definately not sold on Ebay and definately not cheaply made and definately not plastic. Nice key by the way. Mine is in my gallery.


from your link.. and i quote...

" The skull is made from a rugged plastic - the same type as those plastic head keys you might have on your keychain now."

"I learned all I could about plastic casting, obtained professional supplies and now try to create a new design every couple of weeks or so."
 
#19 ·
"They are mass produced cast plastic....YUK! I've seen them on ebay,dime a dozen.I do truly custom one off carved keys." -Cruisemissle

To say someone else's work is "YUK!" is just not right no matter if it's hand painted or hand carved. There are members on here and friends of mine who have used Chopperkeys.com and have had nothing but a great finished product. That was my point I was trying to make. He sells VERY Rarely on Ebay... The quality in my opinion as well as others that have dealt with him is not "dime a dozen" quality. Your key is also very nice but don't knock others unless you have bought one yourself or dealt with the guy over there. What I meant when I said non-plastic was that they were not cheap plastic makes that will just crack. He makes some of his molds and custom makes keys also. He's a real nice guy to work with and is a professional locksmith. I wasn't trying to take business away from you or whatever you may think. Just giving some other people a heads up on what else there is out there. Is that so bad?
 
#20 ·
I never said his work was YUK. In fact I said I guess those chopperkeys are alright.I said plastic yuk.And there have been many on ebay.And yes it is so bad when you miss quote me.If you want to advertise your plastic chopperkey, maybe start a new thread.From this point I'll just ignore your chatter.
 
#21 ·
seriously, its pretty rude to derail a guys thread with a competing product. not that choppercastplastickeys.com can compete with what MrMissle hand carves from a solid piece... but he wasnt even putting this up as an advertisement. just to show the stardays gang who have been waiting to see it, what the final product looked like. its somethign him and oliver talked about then and we all wanted to see the finished product. for you to chime in like you did is not necessary.
 
#22 ·
Wow, can't believe I've been missing out on this. Rarely get time to cruise the various sites as I am rather busy working on my business. Happened to be checking my site stats and saw that there were quite a few hits from this forum so I came to check it out. What I found was a customer defending my honor (thank you Faustus) and some bashing of my product. Bummer, not something I am used to walking into.

Since I have not had benefit of being here to defend myself previously, I would like to take this opportunity to introduce myself and see if I can undo some of the damage that appears to have occurred here.

First off, Fuastus thank you, Loyal customers are a treat and I thank you for your efforts, but my product stands on it's own, the thousands of customers I have will all attest to that - including the celebrities.

Next, "Franken key" is terrific. No two ways about that, as an artist myself I appreciate other art and am not afraid to recognize other work. The majority of my "competition" consists of people gluing keychains and JC Whitney license plate bolts to keys and calling them "Custom". It is refreshing to see another ARTIST doing just the opposite. Kudos guy, I am impressed.

"Yuk" - I have reread that post several times and I too have to admit it was easy for me to assume you were calling my work "Yuk". Which, you are more than free to do. Thank God this is America and the Internet where you should be free to say what you like regardless of who might be watching right? If you don't like my work, man you are certainly not obligated to and obviously you don't need my services so I have no desire or need to impress you.

Plastic - Yes, I use plastic. Plastic that is very expensive and will withstand 2300PSI direct kinetic energy and 600 degrees of heat. Using plastics allows me to reproduce artwork I have done in a variety of neat fashions including clear, crystal clear and glow in the dark. I know that antlers will not withstand those extremes, and since I have Racing teams that use my keys and have had keys survive wrecks, I'd say it's pretty nice material. Next comes insertion of key head to topper. If you are carving these from antlers and I have no reason to believe you are not, then you have to affix them to the key itself, I'd be willing to bet you are using epoxy to do that with. Guess where the weak point is...and guess what that epoxy is...my keys however yuk you might think them, are cast directly onto the key, not glued. They are not coming off. Still tho, antler makes a beautiful medium, I don't fault you for using it.

My art - Never claimed to be the world's greatest sculptor. Plenty of better artists out there and always will be. However, this is for the most part, my art (a few exceptions, I think I used a candy mold for a star key we have, and one of my large skulls was given to me by the artist to use) Apart from that, these are my sculptures sculpted from clay and then molded which by the way usually mangles my artwork so it's good that I do have a mold of it. each mold costs me about $350.00 to make, which I find - NOT CHEAP - especialy when each mold will only make so many pieces before it is no good anymore, which prevents MASS production.

I am the ONLY person in my business producing these pieces. No factory, no big machinery, no massive assembly line, each and every one is hand finished by me, I even polish the metal keys. I spend about 20 hours a day 7 days a week making my stuff, and I have made thousands without a breakdown in quality. I have European dealers that carry my keys regularly in their shops and I set up at rallys all over the place (see you at Trail of Tears '04! in Waterloo). I am not mass producing them, I am just motivated and find those that cannot or will not to be lazy in my entitled and free opinion.

In addition to making these key heads I am also a licensed bonded locksmith. I have thousands of dollars in key cutting equipment and decades of experience with ingitions. When I set up and sell my keys, I can duplicate them on the spot. I didn't hear you mention that, I trust you either glue them directly to someone's working key or you sell it as a kit, or just on a blank. Hey no sweat man, no criticism but you know...that extra little touch goes a long way.

Comparison - I do wish you had not started out comparing our products. That's Apples to Oranges really, and it naturally put me on the defensive as your general tone is rather negative towards me and my business. I generally prefer you get to know me before you assume I'm a jerk (which I am), but hey, you gotta do what you think you have to to protect your business interest, I'm sorry you have such a low opinion of my work, and am glad I've already made a name for myself in this business before customers spoke with you. Good luck to you with your keys, and it's a shame we had to meet like this, I would have enjoyed a friend in this industry. Am still impressed with your work though and wish you well, more than enough business to go around in this field. One word of advice: Eventually customers get tired of hearing companies bash their competition - how many times have you rolled your eyes when a commercial came on TV? Just keep that in mind before you slam me in anymore forums, in the mean time I have some customers that can benefit from your work I will let them know you exist.

Thank you all.
Ken
 
#23 ·
thats good info chopperkey. would be nice to see all of that info in its own thread, about chopperkeys. ya know its not my business, but when someone starts a thread simply "check out my latest creation" and then a competitor turns it into a comparison test vs. their version of the product, i get annoyed.
 
#24 ·
quote:Originally posted by audio77


thats good info chopperkey. would be nice to see all of that info in its own thread, about chopperkeys. ya know its not my business, but when someone starts a thread simply "check out my latest creation" and then a competitor turns it into a comparison test vs. their version of the product, i get annoyed.


Point well taken friend. I perhaps misunderstood when I felt the comparison began with the "Yuk" post - I do apologize for my misunderstanding. Obviously I am the outsider here, I merely had hoped to defend my product from what appeared to be a flame without my presense to defend it. I came to this post as it was where my honor and product were first assaulted, again, my mistake Mr.Missile obviously has a small fan club here and I was out of line thinking anyone would be open to another opinion. This will be the last post I make in this thread, as your point remains and I don't wish to compund the damage already done to my reputation. I do not view Mr.Missile as a competitor and was hoping to view him as a peer, you said it yourself when you posted "it's not that choppercastplastickeys.com can compete with what Mr.Missile hand carves out of a solid piece..." agreed and likewise. Thanks for your time, and the forum real estate.
 
#25 ·
I never bashed you.I said Yuk to plastic..boy you'd think that was a four letter word.In fact if you take the time to read, I said they're all right I guess.I'm not the one who introduced your site.And I don't appreciate you thinking I'm comparing apples to ojs.I can't mass produce one of a kind special orders.This other guy says yours are custom made and not of plastic and not sold on ebay, so when I call him on it he changes his story.Should've been done there but noooo.
I sure didn't drag you into this.
I blame faustus.
 
#26 ·
Chopperkey, i think all of this is being taken out of proportion, but i do feel the flame was started by your 'Loyal customer' all CruiseMissile was doing is showing all the guys his master piece he made for one of our friends. If your customer wanted to advertise for you he could have done it by starting a new thread, i guarantee we would all have seen it and this would not be happening.

I just hope we all learned from this and even some harmless comments can hurt other peoples feelings.

'PEACE TO ALL'