[arizonawarrior]

I'm hunting to see if more belts have come to market, nothing new yet but this could be handy. The Gates seems to be the way to go based on forum success. The Pather seems to be renamed 'POS Panther' due to its huge reported failure rate. I don't see enough Goodyear belt information so don't know quality. The BDL belt is normally shipped as a Panther belt. The MSSS (and most Yami on-line vendors) also sell the Panther belt, sometimes with a BDL part number.


After you do your own research if you decide you want a Gates belt, which is a bit more money, be careful ordering or you could receive a lower quality "Carlisle Dayco Panther" (or BDL-Dayco)(or POS Panther Piss) belt.


The Gates PC-130-118 belt cross reference is:


Custom Chrome p/n is 42780


Drag Specialties p/n is DS197089


Mid-USA p/n is 77552


Midwest p/n is 58-368


Star/Win p/n is B5935


Preston p/n is 42113


Biker's Choice p/n is 439015





Source: http://beltdrives.com/rrdb.htm




REPLACEMENT REAR DRIVE BELTS

http://beltdrives.com/rpb.htm

http://beltdrives.com/catalog.htm












CARLISLE PANTHER
14 MM BELTS

PA-125
125 Tooth

PA-125-118
125 Tooth 1-1/8”

PA-126
126 Tooth

*PA-126-1
126 Tooth 1”

PA-127
127 Tooth

PA-128
128 Tooth

PA-128-118
128 Tooth1-1/8”

PA-130
130 Tooth

*PA-130-1
130 Tooth 1”

*PA-130-118
130 Tooth 1-1/8”

PA-132
132 Tooth

*PA-132-1
132 Tooth 1”

*PA-132-118
132 Tooth 1-1/8”

PA-133
133 Tooth

*PA-133-1
133 Tooth 1”

*PA-133-118
133 Tooth 1-1/8”

PA-135
135 Tooth

PA-136
136 Tooth

*PA-136-1
136 Tooth 1”

*PA-136-118
136 Tooth 1-1/8”

PA-139
139 Tooth

PA-139-118
139 Tooth 1-1/8”








GATES 14 MM POLY BELTS

PC-125
125 Tooth
*PC-132-118
132 Tooth 1-1/8”

PC-125-118
125 Tooth 1-1/8”
PC-133
133 Tooth

PC-126
126 Tooth
*PC-133-1
133 Tooth 1”

PC-126-1
126 Tooth 1”
*PC-133-118
133 Tooth 1-1/8”

PC-126-118
126 Tooth 1-1/8”
PC-135
135 Tooth

PC-127
127 Tooth
PC-135-118
135 Tooth 1-1/8”

PC-128
128 Tooth
PC-136
136 Tooth

PC-128-118
128 Tooth1-1/8”
*PC-136-1
136 Tooth 1”

PC-130
130 Tooth
*PC-136-118
136 Tooth 1-1/8”

*PC-130-1
130 Tooth 1”
PC-139
139 Tooth

*PC-130-118
130 Tooth 1-1/8”
PC-139-1
139 Tooth 1”

PC-132
132 Tooth
PC-139-118
139 Tooth 1-1/8”

*PC-132-1
132 Tooth 1”







GOODYEAR FALCON 14 MM BELTS

GTR-125
125 Tooth
GTR-132
132 Tooth

GTR-125-118
125 Tooth 1-1/8”
GTR-132-118
132 Tooth 1-1/8”

GTR-127
127 Tooth
GTR-133
133 Tooth 1”

GTR-127-118
127 Tooth 1-1/8”
GTR-133-118
133 Tooth 1-1/8”

GTR-128
128 Tooth
GTR-135
135 Tooth

GTR-128-118
128 Tooth 1-1/8”
GTR-135-118
135 Tooth 1-1/8”

GTR-130
130 Tooth
GTR-139
139 Tooth

GTR-130-118
130 Tooth 1-1/8”
GTR-139-118
139 Tooth 1-1/8”

 

[arizonawarrior]

I tracked this down with a search based on posts by members and by going back thru popular mods. It seemed good to start putting belt brand and part# information in one spot. I'm starting to look for replacement belts just to have one on-hand for my '03 since its bound to snap one day!

 

[alanh]

I tracked this down with a search based on posts by members and by going back thru popular mods. It seemed good to start putting belt brand and part# information in one spot. I'm starting to look for replacement belts just to have one on-hand for my '03 since its bound to snap one day!

Lots of very specific belt information on this site from established members. When and if you purchase a belt confirm from your vendor of choice that it is Aramid Fibers & Polyurethane ribbing

As you know, cross referenced, interchanged & alternate part numbers assigned to the OEM P/N’s are typical to the cycle & auto industry and will not guarantee the quality of the substituted part.



Carlisle Panther 1-1/2” wide - 14mm pitch - 130 teeth
Phat Performance sells this as a Dayco Panther Belt under Drag Specialty P/N DS-197004,40017-94 1.5" x130T, 99-03 etc






Belt Drives Ltd (BDL)- Mfg by Gates: 1-1/2" wide - 14mm pitch - 130 teeth
Phat Performance sells this as a Gates HTD Poly Chain Rear Drive Belt under Part GATES-HTD 42616
The belt was tagged w/ Drag Specialty P/N DS-197099, Vendor # PC-130 & Description: 130T 14mm Belt #40017-94as shown below






The following belt description is from the Phat Performance web page

14mm Gates HTD® "Poly Chain®" Belts
All HTD® Poly Chain® belts have the distinctive exterior ribbing and are manufactured in the USA by the Gates Rubber Company. Poly Chain® belts are Kevlar® reinforced and feature rugged construction with aramid fibers surrounded by polyurethane.

 

[arizonawarrior]

Yes, excellent suggestion Alan. Will do.


When and if you purchase a belt confirm from your vendor of choice that it is Aramid Fibers & Polyurethane ribbing

 

[arizonawarrior]

Keeping this separate on purpose.


From the info here and out on the web, the BDL belts show up as Goodyear belts, Gates belts, and Carlisle belts. How interesting.


The Gates is shown in alanh's post above.


Goodyear: http://www.kustomkolorsink.com/m10_view_item.html?m10:item=13210-13217


Carlisle Panther: http://www.demonscycle.com/Shop/Control/fp/build_tis_sku/5600738/vpid/5600738/SFV/31995


They obviously have strong ties in the industry.

 

[jpmontereywarrior]

I am to the point where I would put money on the fact that GATES belts were bought by Yamaha and then had Yamaha painted on the belt.

 

[buck23]

This is an excellent thread. I just wanted some clarification on what the stock replacement belt part number in the Gates Poly Chain from Phat Performance. I think it is 42616. But then there is one that is 1 1/2 and 1 1/8? Sorry if I missed something but I want to make sure I have the correct one. Thanks.

 

[southboundchicken]

you need the 1 1/8" if your stock, i've been down the 1 1/2" road before and never again

 

[buck23]

Yeah that's what i thought. So it would be the 42780 belt? Right?

 

[arizonawarrior]

Since the time of this original post a few years ago, there's more info to consider. These bits of info are housed in the Popular Mods post under the heading 'Belts':

Belt - OEM: UBD-0568 = 1-1/8" (28.575mm) wide, 14mm pitch, 130 tooth
Belt - OEM Replacement: S&S/Gates #106-0359 Carbon = 1-1/8" wide, 14mm pitch, 130 tooth
Belt - OEM Replacement: Gates PC-130-118 (all stock pulleys)

 

[buck23]

Thanks guys for straighting that out for me. It is pretty confusing. Even the sales person at Phat Performance couldn't tell me which belt was a stock replacement belt.