Nice #'s Boogieman! I bet that set up will get up and over 90hp with better/cooler temperature's. Give Dale a thumb's up for me and tell him DarkStar wants CHROME! And he will have my buisness when his set up is ready. Thanks!

Ed

 

Chuck, very impressive. That combined with the look and sound of Dale's pipe are sure to make it a winner. I'll have to ditto Ed's sentiments about chrome. I'd be willing to consider the change...

 

Don't know about chrome on that set of pipes they look like serious race/performance pipes. I can see my bike with those black pipes & a NOX bottle hanging off the front downtube. Probably would not get many takers from a stop light.

I'll vote for black, maybe chrome can be an option.

 

Ahhhhh..I love black pipes....

 

Very nice #'s...what else do you have done to the bike besides exhaust?

 

Chuck, very impressive #'s! Now I see why it's so hard to keep up with you!

 

the only mods are the pipe and the churchkey v-bak.

 

Great numbers with few mods. Hp should easily go over 90. Good luck.

 

Chuck,

Did you finally settle on 20 discs in the muffler? Just curious if you ran other combinations of discs, etc., and what the results of those runs were compared to the rest.

 

Wow those are definately awesome numbers especially considering only the few mods that you have done! I would like to see the variance in dyno numbers between a group of stock warriors.I'm guessing there is probably a big difference just among the stockers.Any comparisons Rob?

 

So they are making go fast goodies for my FJR? did you see anything interesting?

 

MSM,

Throttle, Boogieman, Amospro and myself all have pulls on the same dyno (Gforce). That might give you an idea of the differences between pipes with relatively similar intake mods. Boogieman and I are running the Churchkey's VBAK, and we are probably neck and neck speedwise on the street. I'd say our two bikes would be most comparable HP/Tq wise. I think only Throttle had a pull done with the stock pipe. I know Oliver (Frankenstein) was getting some pulls done with a variety of exhausts. But even if you used different bikes' stock bike pulls on the same dyno, what will that tell you?

 

Nice numbers.

 

The only thing I was getting at Jimbo was the fact if 2 people start off with stock warriors and one dynos at 70 h.p. and another dyno's in at 75 h.p.,same dyno,same day,,,just as a comparison. and they do different exhaust,etc....obviously if both pipes perform the same the guy that started off with more horsepower is still going to have more horsepower,but the thing is I have rarely ever seen anybody post stock dyno #'s with their mod #'s and everyone gets a false impression that if so and so did this exhaust with this BAK and etc. and has 90 h.p....then if I do those same mods I will have 90 h.p. too. I dont think this is true because I know there is a variance with all bikes.Even Rob has stated before that he's seen as many as a 10 h.p. difference between gsx-r1000's(stock).It may not be as big a difference with the warriors(although it could be).My previous statement was just that...I was curious to see what kind of variance Rob or PR has seen between stock warriors before any mods.If I remember right there was one member that was claiming he had an exhaust,BAK,and some other mod done and he was only getting like 63 h.p. on the dyno and everyone said his exhaust was the reason.It's really just more of a curiosity thing with me as I would like to know what kind of quality control goes on with the warriors but I would also like to see when someone shows dyno #'s that they show stock and after each mod to see what kind of gain each has had.I know that not everyone has that kind of dyno access but if they did it would be more helpful for other members.Just my opinion though.

 

Okay moderators you may want to move this topic to the vender forum...your call.
i know some of you guys have been following my progress with this header system for a while. we have in fact been working on it off and on for several months and several different designs (5) to get to where we are now.i guess in this case 5's a charm.we expiriemented with many pipe diameter sizes,collector types and sizes as well as overall lengths.in reality it has been a pain in the butt for both of us, some of the designs that we tried made huge torque but low hp and some were just the opposite.

Dale called me yesterday and said that he has made a few decisions about whats going to be available,this isn't set in stone or anything but here is the plan so far.
it will be available in ceramic black and ceramic silver, coated inside and out, and it will have a 3 year no rust warranty.
the ceramic coating will provide smoother flow and better cooling,as at this time there is no plan for heat sheilds.

also i beleive the rear pipe hanger will be redesigned similiar to the stock can hanger but a little bit smaller and cleaner looking,with a possible hook up to relocate brake resevoir.

he hasn't really said much about the pipe hanger yet but i beleive its neccessary.

in addition the pipe when completed will also come with a copy of the map that was made on my bike.

 

Sounds Good Chuck! Black or Silver, Hmmmmm? I guess I will have to see a pic of the silver. Thanks for all the time and effort. Let Dale know we do appreciate his hard work and he can sell me his first production piece.

Ed

 

hey I'm thinking of black myself , I love it !

 

Hey there Guys

I just wanted to say hi ,no sales pitch or anything like that.Im getting Chucks bike back this weekend and will be chipping away at the next step to get this thing closer to production.I cant really say much more for now other than This thing has nearly killed me at times , but I think I finally won the war.....LOL.

Happy holidays

Dale Walker at Holeshot Performance

 

Hey Dale, you have got to drop by more often.

 

I love the look and #'s of the pipe. I'd especially like to see some chrome heat shields - but with or without heat shields I'll be ordering this pipe. Thanks!

 

JP Cycles has some after market heat shields

 

We made a few final adjustments and tucked it in a bit more.Also worked on a new rear bracket for the muffler and master cylinder to tuck it away better.We have our welding jig completed as well. So next we cut it apart and send it to my CNC tubing bender to take a look at.

As far as a heat shields , That will be one of the last steps I deal with and It will have one made of stainless so you dont burn your lower leg off when you come to a stop and put your foot down.

Happy Holidays guys

Dale at Holeshot


Also thanks Chuck for hanging in there with your bike