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Thoughts on electric? Maybe they’ll make an electric Warrior with 300ft lbs if torque!

Zero’s SR/F has eyebrow raising specs.

140 ft-lbs of torque
110hp
124 mph top speed
200 mile range
80min charge time
Low maintenance
 

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Low maintenance and gobs of torque. The purists will miss the sounds, but after riding in an electric car, the quietness grows on you! Although on a motorcycle you will never have quiet. I personally cannot wait until they are more affordable and availability increases!
 

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Not for me to pricey.


I quickly comped a new R6 @ 45 mpg = 4000 gallons of gas @ 2.50 a gallon & 180,000 miles later to break even on the purchase prices.


Normal maint & E charges were not considered.
 

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Eeek price is a turnoff. If prices were similar that torque is alluring. Then there is the idea of being ‘green’ for environment but I wonder about pollution caused by making and then down the road trashing these batteries.
 

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Performance sounds great and all, but I'm a huge music fan and always have it playing everywhere I go, unless I'm on my bike! I don't know about not having that feel and sound when rolling on the throttle! If they were cheaper then I could justify having one as a track toy, not sure about the daily ride though.
 

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Dude now I know the next greatest invention of all time… A music app that plays the sound of loud pipes when you roll on the throttle of the e-bike.
 

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Dude now I know the next greatest invention of all time… A music app that plays the sound of loud pipes when you roll on the throttle of the e-bike.
Huh... you could actually use the accelerometers in your phone and the GPS speed from an app like velociraptor... from those two inputs you could get pretty close to what "gear" you would be in as well as "throttle position" (i.e. how much throttle your giving her)... hot dang, that's totally possible!

As for the original question; COST. The only variable I care about is cost. Not just purchase price, but cost of ownership, which includes reliability, battery replacement, and anticipated resale value. If it had the same performance as a gasser and similiar cost then I would go for it. Right now the premium is way too much to even consider.

I remember walking into a Wiz electronics store in NJ back in the early 90's... they had a single plasma TV for sale. It was HUGE!!! I think it was 45" across!!!!! And if memory serves me, the cost was $19,999.

I paid $349 for my 55" about 6 months ago.
 

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Huh... you could actually use the accelerometers in your phone and the GPS speed from an app like velociraptor... from those two inputs you could get pretty close to what "gear" you would be in as well as "throttle position" (i.e. how much throttle your giving her)... hot dang, that's totally possible!

As for the original question; COST. The only variable I care about is cost. Not just purchase price, but cost of ownership, which includes reliability, battery replacement, and anticipated resale value. If it had the same performance as a gasser and similiar cost then I would go for it. Right now the premium is way too much to even consider.

I remember walking into a Wiz electronics store in NJ back in the early 90's... they had a single plasma TV for sale. It was HUGE!!! I think it was 45" across!!!!! And if memory serves me, the cost was $19,999.

I paid $349 for my 55" about 6 months ago.

Also brilliant!
 

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Eeek price is a turnoff. If prices were similar that torque is alluring. Then there is the idea of being ‘green’ for environment but I wonder about pollution caused by making and then down the road trashing these batteries.
True. Green makes no consideration for what it takes to manufacture the batteries for these 'clean' vehicles.
 

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The Li-Ion manufacturing process in the US is near-green and it's considered to be as close as it will ever get.

The mining of lithium has become more green in the USA because of three high concentration lithium sources in Nevada. Two are very huge surface deposits requiring only sulphuric acid recovery, and one is underground so the brine is pumped to the surface and the water carrier is allowed to naturally evaporate. The sulphuric acid recovery is being worked-on for other options. So there is still work to be done for separating the lithium when it is in clay but that is far greener already than just a couple years ago.

The last hurdle is waste and recycle. All the physical containers are recyclable metal shaped from sheet in a stamping machine. Anode and diode are recyclable. The lithium itself is not hazardous waste but it has to be cleaned.

In particular the Tesla Panasonic battery factory has marched to its drummer and proven nearly all the scary stories to be false. Except yes they can burst into flames if breached.

Overseas factories are still in the stone age except the UK and Canada are modernizing.

Nobody can say Lithium batteries of any formulation are green. But they are far far far greener than any available alternative.

I have no skin in the game. I love my Shorai Li-Iron starting battery. These lithium based technologies are a no-brainer. Lithium batteries are far cleaner and greener than lead acid in any form including AGM.
 
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