Can only comment on the one that I own. The mini fairing provides 75% chest protection. No head protection, but it is very stream line and actaully seems to add to the arodynamics, slight increase in fuel milage and speed.
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I'm 6ft, have the Memphis Shades Hellcat. Mounts to the bars. Adjustable up/down, flat/rounded. Took me about 2 weeks of moving every thing around to find the sweetspot, but I have no buffeting at any speed. Major difference when highway riding long distances. I don't use it in town (again, WINDSHIELDS[?] [:0] ON WARRIORS[?][/emoticons/emotion-6.gif!]. But sustained speeds of 80+, the windshield is great. [/emoticons/emotion-5.gif] Takes any pressure from wind off chest/head. Finding something that won't cause buffeting is the key thing.
You can always see pics of windshields on bikes, but not a whole lot with the rider on to get a sense of the highth of the shield. Here's one when I'm on the bike. The Hellcat is 18 inches from the top cut of the headlight to the top of the shield, have it tilted back and spread out on the bars to flaten it. The flattening is what got rid of the buffeting. It don't look that big but honestly, I feel no/minimal windpressure when riding.
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You can always see pics of windshields on bikes, but not a whole lot with the rider on to get a sense of the highth of the shield. Here's one when I'm on the bike. The Hellcat is 18 inches from the top cut of the headlight to the top of the shield, have it tilted back and spread out on the bars to flaten it. The flattening is what got rid of the buffeting. It don't look that big but honestly, I feel no/minimal windpressure when riding.
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Hi!
First off, I am 6'0". I have tried both the boulevard and the clearview (4 inches taller, 2 inches wider) and this is how I view windshields on the warrior.
There are three "zones" of air coming off the windshield:
1. Low Pressure, Moderate Turbulence -- this comes from directly behind the windshield in a bubble extending fromthe windshield towards you
2. Moderate Pressure, High Turbulence -- this comes off the lip of the windshield and increases in pressure, decreases in turbulence the further away from the windshield you are
3. High Pressure, Low Turbulence -- this is the clean airstream typical of no windscreen at all. If you are tall, then your head will likely be in this zone unless you have a very large windscreen.
It is VERY difficult (if not impossible) becasue of how far the windscreen is from your head, for a tall rider to be entirely in zone 1 (low pressure, mod turbulence). The trick then, is to find a windscreen that puts the majority of your body (chest and shoulders) in zone 1, without putting your face and ears in zone 2 (mod pressure, high turbulence). The complaining everyone does about the various windscreens causing buffetting is because that high turbulence air has moved up to their ears/eyes level and bounces their head around, making a lot of noise.
Now depending on whether or not you have stock handlebars, tend to slouch when riding, have an aftermarket seat that moves you forward (corbin solo) or back (stinger/rumble), or the speed you typically cruise at on highways will all determine where that hated Zone 2 (high turbulence, moderate pressure) hits you. Really nothing we can say is going to give you anything other than a starting point to find out for yourself. Obviously from many of hte posts some guys just figure its better to chuck the screen altogether and and stick to the zone 3 air (high pressure, low turbulence).
Myself, I do a LOT of very fast freeway travel (80-90mph) and it beats me up to have to hold on against that zone three air stream. The Boulevard windscreen gives me a lot of relief (about 75%) on my chest, but my shoulders are still in the zone 3 airflow. The zone 2 (high turbulence) hits me between the collarbone and neck, jsut missing hte bottom of my helmet which is all in the relatively clean zone 3 air.
Wanting to get less pressure for a long ride I was going to do (5 days, 1500miles) I purchased the clearview which looks great (uses the boulevard mounting hardware) and is 4 inches taller, two inches wider than stock. It did, in fact, lower the pressure on my chest taking ALL my chest and all my shoulders out of the higher pressure zones. Unfortunately it moved the hated zone 2 air right onto the lower half of my faceshield. Ouch. My neck was sore, my ears rang, my vision got blurry from all the bouncing around. To make it worse, the top half of my head was still in the high-pressure zone 3 air making me still have to press against the air flow.
Needless to say, I stopped using that screen as soon as I got back from that trip. I tried no shield for a couple of weeks, but jsut felt too fatigued after 60+ miles on freeways at 80+mph. Putting my feet on the passenger pegs and leaning into the wind helped a little, but that cramps the knees after a bit.
So I went back to the boulevard as the best compromise.
I have a 34" inseam, jsut like you, so your extra height is in your torso. That means that the boulevard is going ot be less effective for you than for me, althoguh you might do very well with the clearview *if* you dont crouch down too much. If you can keep that high turbulence part just under the helmet and your head in the clean air stream I would think thats as good as you can expect to do. If you do go for the clearview, you might want to consider asking for one made only 2 inches taller, but still 2 inches wider if oyu think that the turbulent air off the lip will hit you in the head.
Anyhow, all this feedback is worth exactly what you paid for it /emoticons/emotion-5.gif -- but it does represent a lot of playing with my hand in the airstream at various points around hte windscreen trying to figure out why a bigger screen made things worse.
Good luck to you and if you decide you want to try the clearview, pm me -- Ive got one of the useless things laying around here somewhere!!
JT
First off, I am 6'0". I have tried both the boulevard and the clearview (4 inches taller, 2 inches wider) and this is how I view windshields on the warrior.
There are three "zones" of air coming off the windshield:
1. Low Pressure, Moderate Turbulence -- this comes from directly behind the windshield in a bubble extending fromthe windshield towards you
2. Moderate Pressure, High Turbulence -- this comes off the lip of the windshield and increases in pressure, decreases in turbulence the further away from the windshield you are
3. High Pressure, Low Turbulence -- this is the clean airstream typical of no windscreen at all. If you are tall, then your head will likely be in this zone unless you have a very large windscreen.
It is VERY difficult (if not impossible) becasue of how far the windscreen is from your head, for a tall rider to be entirely in zone 1 (low pressure, mod turbulence). The trick then, is to find a windscreen that puts the majority of your body (chest and shoulders) in zone 1, without putting your face and ears in zone 2 (mod pressure, high turbulence). The complaining everyone does about the various windscreens causing buffetting is because that high turbulence air has moved up to their ears/eyes level and bounces their head around, making a lot of noise.
Now depending on whether or not you have stock handlebars, tend to slouch when riding, have an aftermarket seat that moves you forward (corbin solo) or back (stinger/rumble), or the speed you typically cruise at on highways will all determine where that hated Zone 2 (high turbulence, moderate pressure) hits you. Really nothing we can say is going to give you anything other than a starting point to find out for yourself. Obviously from many of hte posts some guys just figure its better to chuck the screen altogether and and stick to the zone 3 air (high pressure, low turbulence).
Myself, I do a LOT of very fast freeway travel (80-90mph) and it beats me up to have to hold on against that zone three air stream. The Boulevard windscreen gives me a lot of relief (about 75%) on my chest, but my shoulders are still in the zone 3 airflow. The zone 2 (high turbulence) hits me between the collarbone and neck, jsut missing hte bottom of my helmet which is all in the relatively clean zone 3 air.
Wanting to get less pressure for a long ride I was going to do (5 days, 1500miles) I purchased the clearview which looks great (uses the boulevard mounting hardware) and is 4 inches taller, two inches wider than stock. It did, in fact, lower the pressure on my chest taking ALL my chest and all my shoulders out of the higher pressure zones. Unfortunately it moved the hated zone 2 air right onto the lower half of my faceshield. Ouch. My neck was sore, my ears rang, my vision got blurry from all the bouncing around. To make it worse, the top half of my head was still in the high-pressure zone 3 air making me still have to press against the air flow.
Needless to say, I stopped using that screen as soon as I got back from that trip. I tried no shield for a couple of weeks, but jsut felt too fatigued after 60+ miles on freeways at 80+mph. Putting my feet on the passenger pegs and leaning into the wind helped a little, but that cramps the knees after a bit.
So I went back to the boulevard as the best compromise.
I have a 34" inseam, jsut like you, so your extra height is in your torso. That means that the boulevard is going ot be less effective for you than for me, althoguh you might do very well with the clearview *if* you dont crouch down too much. If you can keep that high turbulence part just under the helmet and your head in the clean air stream I would think thats as good as you can expect to do. If you do go for the clearview, you might want to consider asking for one made only 2 inches taller, but still 2 inches wider if oyu think that the turbulent air off the lip will hit you in the head.
Anyhow, all this feedback is worth exactly what you paid for it /emoticons/emotion-5.gif -- but it does represent a lot of playing with my hand in the airstream at various points around hte windscreen trying to figure out why a bigger screen made things worse.
Good luck to you and if you decide you want to try the clearview, pm me -- Ive got one of the useless things laying around here somewhere!!
JT
This is my WindVest 16 x 16 with long mounting brackets. The greater than normal rake back (rather than mounting it more upright) is what makes it work, very little buffeting, but only with a full face as part of the air flow.
This is a sweet setup but I'm 5'10", don't know about 6'3".
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This is a sweet setup but I'm 5'10", don't know about 6'3".
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Matt, Doing the math, I think my Blvd windshield is like 12-13 inches tall.
So did you get the GT16 then, which is 15.5" tall?
quote:Originally posted by jaytee
Hi!
First off, I am 6'0". I have tried both the boulevard and the clearview (4 inches taller, 2 inches wider) and this is how I view windshields on the warrior.
There are three "zones" of air coming off the windshield:
1. Low Pressure, Moderate Turbulence -- this comes from directly behind the windshield in a bubble extending fromthe windshield towards you
2. Moderate Pressure, High Turbulence -- this comes off the lip of the windshield and increases in pressure, decreases in turbulence the further away from the windshield you are
3. High Pressure, Low Turbulence -- this is the clean airstream typical of no windscreen at all. If you are tall, then your head will likely be in this zone unless you have a very large windscreen.
It is VERY difficult (if not impossible) becasue of how far the windscreen is from your head, for a tall rider to be entirely in zone 1 (low pressure, mod turbulence). The trick then, is to find a windscreen that puts the majority of your body (chest and shoulders) in zone 1, without putting your face and ears in zone 2 (mod pressure, high turbulence). The complaining everyone does about the various windscreens causing buffetting is because that high turbulence air has moved up to their ears/eyes level and bounces their head around, making a lot of noise.
Now depending on whether or not you have stock handlebars, tend to slouch when riding, have an aftermarket seat that moves you forward (corbin solo) or back (stinger/rumble), or the speed you typically cruise at on highways will all determine where that hated Zone 2 (high turbulence, moderate pressure) hits you. Really nothing we can say is going to give you anything other than a starting point to find out for yourself. Obviously from many of hte posts some guys just figure its better to chuck the screen altogether and and stick to the zone 3 air (high pressure, low turbulence).
Myself, I do a LOT of very fast freeway travel (80-90mph) and it beats me up to have to hold on against that zone three air stream. The Boulevard windscreen gives me a lot of relief (about 75%) on my chest, but my shoulders are still in the zone 3 airflow. The zone 2 (high turbulence) hits me between the collarbone and neck, jsut missing hte bottom of my helmet which is all in the relatively clean zone 3 air.
Wanting to get less pressure for a long ride I was going to do (5 days, 1500miles) I purchased the clearview which looks great (uses the boulevard mounting hardware) and is 4 inches taller, two inches wider than stock. It did, in fact, lower the pressure on my chest taking ALL my chest and all my shoulders out of the higher pressure zones. Unfortunately it moved the hated zone 2 air right onto the lower half of my faceshield. Ouch. My neck was sore, my ears rang, my vision got blurry from all the bouncing around. To make it worse, the top half of my head was still in the high-pressure zone 3 air making me still have to press against the air flow.
Needless to say, I stopped using that screen as soon as I got back from that trip. I tried no shield for a couple of weeks, but jsut felt too fatigued after 60+ miles on freeways at 80+mph. Putting my feet on the passenger pegs and leaning into the wind helped a little, but that cramps the knees after a bit.
So I went back to the boulevard as the best compromise.
I have a 34" inseam, jsut like you, so your extra height is in your torso. That means that the boulevard is going ot be less effective for you than for me, althoguh you might do very well with the clearview *if* you dont crouch down too much. If you can keep that high turbulence part just under the helmet and your head in the clean air stream I would think thats as good as you can expect to do. If you do go for the clearview, you might want to consider asking for one made only 2 inches taller, but still 2 inches wider if oyu think that the turbulent air off the lip will hit you in the head.
Anyhow, all this feedback is worth exactly what you paid for it /emoticons/emotion-5.gif -- but it does represent a lot of playing with my hand in the airstream at various points around hte windscreen trying to figure out why a bigger screen made things worse.
Good luck to you and if you decide you want to try the clearview, pm me -- Ive got one of the useless things laying around here somewhere!!
JT
So did you get the GT16 then, which is 15.5" tall?
quote:Originally posted by jaytee
Hi!
First off, I am 6'0". I have tried both the boulevard and the clearview (4 inches taller, 2 inches wider) and this is how I view windshields on the warrior.
There are three "zones" of air coming off the windshield:
1. Low Pressure, Moderate Turbulence -- this comes from directly behind the windshield in a bubble extending fromthe windshield towards you
2. Moderate Pressure, High Turbulence -- this comes off the lip of the windshield and increases in pressure, decreases in turbulence the further away from the windshield you are
3. High Pressure, Low Turbulence -- this is the clean airstream typical of no windscreen at all. If you are tall, then your head will likely be in this zone unless you have a very large windscreen.
It is VERY difficult (if not impossible) becasue of how far the windscreen is from your head, for a tall rider to be entirely in zone 1 (low pressure, mod turbulence). The trick then, is to find a windscreen that puts the majority of your body (chest and shoulders) in zone 1, without putting your face and ears in zone 2 (mod pressure, high turbulence). The complaining everyone does about the various windscreens causing buffetting is because that high turbulence air has moved up to their ears/eyes level and bounces their head around, making a lot of noise.
Now depending on whether or not you have stock handlebars, tend to slouch when riding, have an aftermarket seat that moves you forward (corbin solo) or back (stinger/rumble), or the speed you typically cruise at on highways will all determine where that hated Zone 2 (high turbulence, moderate pressure) hits you. Really nothing we can say is going to give you anything other than a starting point to find out for yourself. Obviously from many of hte posts some guys just figure its better to chuck the screen altogether and and stick to the zone 3 air (high pressure, low turbulence).
Myself, I do a LOT of very fast freeway travel (80-90mph) and it beats me up to have to hold on against that zone three air stream. The Boulevard windscreen gives me a lot of relief (about 75%) on my chest, but my shoulders are still in the zone 3 airflow. The zone 2 (high turbulence) hits me between the collarbone and neck, jsut missing hte bottom of my helmet which is all in the relatively clean zone 3 air.
Wanting to get less pressure for a long ride I was going to do (5 days, 1500miles) I purchased the clearview which looks great (uses the boulevard mounting hardware) and is 4 inches taller, two inches wider than stock. It did, in fact, lower the pressure on my chest taking ALL my chest and all my shoulders out of the higher pressure zones. Unfortunately it moved the hated zone 2 air right onto the lower half of my faceshield. Ouch. My neck was sore, my ears rang, my vision got blurry from all the bouncing around. To make it worse, the top half of my head was still in the high-pressure zone 3 air making me still have to press against the air flow.
Needless to say, I stopped using that screen as soon as I got back from that trip. I tried no shield for a couple of weeks, but jsut felt too fatigued after 60+ miles on freeways at 80+mph. Putting my feet on the passenger pegs and leaning into the wind helped a little, but that cramps the knees after a bit.
So I went back to the boulevard as the best compromise.
I have a 34" inseam, jsut like you, so your extra height is in your torso. That means that the boulevard is going ot be less effective for you than for me, althoguh you might do very well with the clearview *if* you dont crouch down too much. If you can keep that high turbulence part just under the helmet and your head in the clean air stream I would think thats as good as you can expect to do. If you do go for the clearview, you might want to consider asking for one made only 2 inches taller, but still 2 inches wider if oyu think that the turbulent air off the lip will hit you in the head.
Anyhow, all this feedback is worth exactly what you paid for it /emoticons/emotion-5.gif -- but it does represent a lot of playing with my hand in the airstream at various points around hte windscreen trying to figure out why a bigger screen made things worse.
Good luck to you and if you decide you want to try the clearview, pm me -- Ive got one of the useless things laying around here somewhere!!
JT
quote:Originally posted by jaytee
Hi!
First off, I am 6'0". I have tried both the boulevard and the clearview (4 inches taller, 2 inches wider) and this is how I view windshields on the warrior.
There are three "zones" of air coming off the windshield:
1. Low Pressure, Moderate Turbulence -- this comes from directly behind the windshield in a bubble extending fromthe windshield towards you
2. Moderate Pressure, High Turbulence -- this comes off the lip of the windshield and increases in pressure, decreases in turbulence the further away from the windshield you are
3. High Pressure, Low Turbulence -- this is the clean airstream typical of no windscreen at all. If you are tall, then your head will likely be in this zone unless you have a very large windscreen.
It is VERY difficult (if not impossible) becasue of how far the windscreen is from your head, for a tall rider to be entirely in zone 1 (low pressure, mod turbulence). The trick then, is to find a windscreen that puts the majority of your body (chest and shoulders) in zone 1, without putting your face and ears in zone 2 (mod pressure, high turbulence). The complaining everyone does about the various windscreens causing buffetting is because that high turbulence air has moved up to their ears/eyes level and bounces their head around, making a lot of noise.
Now depending on whether or not you have stock handlebars, tend to slouch when riding, have an aftermarket seat that moves you forward (corbin solo) or back (stinger/rumble), or the speed you typically cruise at on highways will all determine where that hated Zone 2 (high turbulence, moderate pressure) hits you. Really nothing we can say is going to give you anything other than a starting point to find out for yourself. Obviously from many of hte posts some guys just figure its better to chuck the screen altogether and and stick to the zone 3 air (high pressure, low turbulence).
Myself, I do a LOT of very fast freeway travel (80-90mph) and it beats me up to have to hold on against that zone three air stream. The Boulevard windscreen gives me a lot of relief (about 75%) on my chest, but my shoulders are still in the zone 3 airflow. The zone 2 (high turbulence) hits me between the collarbone and neck, jsut missing hte bottom of my helmet which is all in the relatively clean zone 3 air.
Wanting to get less pressure for a long ride I was going to do (5 days, 1500miles) I purchased the clearview which looks great (uses the boulevard mounting hardware) and is 4 inches taller, two inches wider than stock. It did, in fact, lower the pressure on my chest taking ALL my chest and all my shoulders out of the higher pressure zones. Unfortunately it moved the hated zone 2 air right onto the lower half of my faceshield. Ouch. My neck was sore, my ears rang, my vision got blurry from all the bouncing around. To make it worse, the top half of my head was still in the high-pressure zone 3 air making me still have to press against the air flow.
Needless to say, I stopped using that screen as soon as I got back from that trip. I tried no shield for a couple of weeks, but jsut felt too fatigued after 60+ miles on freeways at 80+mph. Putting my feet on the passenger pegs and leaning into the wind helped a little, but that cramps the knees after a bit.
So I went back to the boulevard as the best compromise.
I have a 34" inseam, jsut like you, so your extra height is in your torso. That means that the boulevard is going ot be less effective for you than for me, althoguh you might do very well with the clearview *if* you dont crouch down too much. If you can keep that high turbulence part just under the helmet and your head in the clean air stream I would think thats as good as you can expect to do. If you do go for the clearview, you might want to consider asking for one made only 2 inches taller, but still 2 inches wider if oyu think that the turbulent air off the lip will hit you in the head.
Anyhow, all this feedback is worth exactly what you paid for it /emoticons/emotion-5.gif -- but it does represent a lot of playing with my hand in the airstream at various points around hte windscreen trying to figure out why a bigger screen made things worse.
Good luck to you and if you decide you want to try the clearview, pm me -- Ive got one of the useless things laying around here somewhere!!
JT
jaytee,
What would you expect if you went to the 20" Clearview?
Hi!
First off, I am 6'0". I have tried both the boulevard and the clearview (4 inches taller, 2 inches wider) and this is how I view windshields on the warrior.
There are three "zones" of air coming off the windshield:
1. Low Pressure, Moderate Turbulence -- this comes from directly behind the windshield in a bubble extending fromthe windshield towards you
2. Moderate Pressure, High Turbulence -- this comes off the lip of the windshield and increases in pressure, decreases in turbulence the further away from the windshield you are
3. High Pressure, Low Turbulence -- this is the clean airstream typical of no windscreen at all. If you are tall, then your head will likely be in this zone unless you have a very large windscreen.
It is VERY difficult (if not impossible) becasue of how far the windscreen is from your head, for a tall rider to be entirely in zone 1 (low pressure, mod turbulence). The trick then, is to find a windscreen that puts the majority of your body (chest and shoulders) in zone 1, without putting your face and ears in zone 2 (mod pressure, high turbulence). The complaining everyone does about the various windscreens causing buffetting is because that high turbulence air has moved up to their ears/eyes level and bounces their head around, making a lot of noise.
Now depending on whether or not you have stock handlebars, tend to slouch when riding, have an aftermarket seat that moves you forward (corbin solo) or back (stinger/rumble), or the speed you typically cruise at on highways will all determine where that hated Zone 2 (high turbulence, moderate pressure) hits you. Really nothing we can say is going to give you anything other than a starting point to find out for yourself. Obviously from many of hte posts some guys just figure its better to chuck the screen altogether and and stick to the zone 3 air (high pressure, low turbulence).
Myself, I do a LOT of very fast freeway travel (80-90mph) and it beats me up to have to hold on against that zone three air stream. The Boulevard windscreen gives me a lot of relief (about 75%) on my chest, but my shoulders are still in the zone 3 airflow. The zone 2 (high turbulence) hits me between the collarbone and neck, jsut missing hte bottom of my helmet which is all in the relatively clean zone 3 air.
Wanting to get less pressure for a long ride I was going to do (5 days, 1500miles) I purchased the clearview which looks great (uses the boulevard mounting hardware) and is 4 inches taller, two inches wider than stock. It did, in fact, lower the pressure on my chest taking ALL my chest and all my shoulders out of the higher pressure zones. Unfortunately it moved the hated zone 2 air right onto the lower half of my faceshield. Ouch. My neck was sore, my ears rang, my vision got blurry from all the bouncing around. To make it worse, the top half of my head was still in the high-pressure zone 3 air making me still have to press against the air flow.
Needless to say, I stopped using that screen as soon as I got back from that trip. I tried no shield for a couple of weeks, but jsut felt too fatigued after 60+ miles on freeways at 80+mph. Putting my feet on the passenger pegs and leaning into the wind helped a little, but that cramps the knees after a bit.
So I went back to the boulevard as the best compromise.
I have a 34" inseam, jsut like you, so your extra height is in your torso. That means that the boulevard is going ot be less effective for you than for me, althoguh you might do very well with the clearview *if* you dont crouch down too much. If you can keep that high turbulence part just under the helmet and your head in the clean air stream I would think thats as good as you can expect to do. If you do go for the clearview, you might want to consider asking for one made only 2 inches taller, but still 2 inches wider if oyu think that the turbulent air off the lip will hit you in the head.
Anyhow, all this feedback is worth exactly what you paid for it /emoticons/emotion-5.gif -- but it does represent a lot of playing with my hand in the airstream at various points around hte windscreen trying to figure out why a bigger screen made things worse.
Good luck to you and if you decide you want to try the clearview, pm me -- Ive got one of the useless things laying around here somewhere!!
JT
jaytee,
What would you expect if you went to the 20" Clearview?
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