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First off... A warm Hello from Calgary, AB!... and thanks to everyone for an informative and very resourceful site for RSW owners. I truly enjoy the insight and rider feedback contained within this site. I have spent a fair bit of time searching past posts/forums, as this is my first post, please do excuse me if I have tabled a questions that has been discussed in past forums.

I am a 6'3" riser with a 34" inseam, with a planned 5 day highway trip this June, I have found many insightful comments & had some PM feedback re: windshield style / preference. I would like some feedback from fellow 6'3" riders as to their preferred windshield of choice. The following feedback would be greatly appreciated:

- Will a Yamaha Mini Fairing provide any wind protection for chest / head areas?

- Yamaha Boulevard, Memphis Shades, Clear shield c/w Boulevard mounts - which have you found most effective?

- Last question, which product best suites ease of putting "on" & taking "off"?

Thanks in advance for your time, it is greatly appreciated!
 

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Can only comment on the one that I own. The mini fairing provides 75% chest protection. No head protection, but it is very stream line and actaully seems to add to the arodynamics, slight increase in fuel milage and speed.
 

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I agree with ohiomike. I've got the Yamaha Boulevard and it is to small. I'm going to get the Clearview, but I'm trying to figure out whether to get the 16 or the 20. I'm 5'8" so I'm sure you woulod need the 20.
 

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quote:Originally posted by luv_a_flip

windshield not necessary - put on a full face helmet


Agreed, I am 6'6" and have had the Boulevard, Mini fairing, and a big Memphis Shades windshield. None of them were very good. The boulevard and the big Memphis Shades actually caused me more problems than they solved. They would put my head into a very turbulent area and cause my neck to be very sore at the end of a days ride. The mini fairing was ok, as it actually did help streamline the wind, but it still didn't block much if any wind. I have found that a full face helmet is the best for me for a long ride.
 

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I agree with the full face crowd. Had the mini fairing, helped some on the chest but thats it. Then right before I sold it I put on a 20" Street EX from National Cycle and the turbulence (sp?) was so bad I almost chucked it on the side of the road.
 

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I'm 6ft, have the Memphis Shades Hellcat. Mounts to the bars. Adjustable up/down, flat/rounded. Took me about 2 weeks of moving every thing around to find the sweetspot, but I have no buffeting at any speed. Major difference when highway riding long distances. I don't use it in town (again, WINDSHIELDS[?] [:0] ON WARRIORS[?][/emoticons/emotion-6.gif!]. But sustained speeds of 80+, the windshield is great. [/emoticons/emotion-5.gif] Takes any pressure from wind off chest/head. Finding something that won't cause buffeting is the key thing.

You can always see pics of windshields on bikes, but not a whole lot with the rider on to get a sense of the highth of the shield. Here's one when I'm on the bike. The Hellcat is 18 inches from the top cut of the headlight to the top of the shield, have it tilted back and spread out on the bars to flaten it. The flattening is what got rid of the buffeting. It don't look that big but honestly, I feel no/minimal windpressure when riding.

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Hi!

First off, I am 6'0". I have tried both the boulevard and the clearview (4 inches taller, 2 inches wider) and this is how I view windshields on the warrior.

There are three "zones" of air coming off the windshield:
1. Low Pressure, Moderate Turbulence -- this comes from directly behind the windshield in a bubble extending fromthe windshield towards you
2. Moderate Pressure, High Turbulence -- this comes off the lip of the windshield and increases in pressure, decreases in turbulence the further away from the windshield you are
3. High Pressure, Low Turbulence -- this is the clean airstream typical of no windscreen at all. If you are tall, then your head will likely be in this zone unless you have a very large windscreen.

It is VERY difficult (if not impossible) becasue of how far the windscreen is from your head, for a tall rider to be entirely in zone 1 (low pressure, mod turbulence). The trick then, is to find a windscreen that puts the majority of your body (chest and shoulders) in zone 1, without putting your face and ears in zone 2 (mod pressure, high turbulence). The complaining everyone does about the various windscreens causing buffetting is because that high turbulence air has moved up to their ears/eyes level and bounces their head around, making a lot of noise.

Now depending on whether or not you have stock handlebars, tend to slouch when riding, have an aftermarket seat that moves you forward (corbin solo) or back (stinger/rumble), or the speed you typically cruise at on highways will all determine where that hated Zone 2 (high turbulence, moderate pressure) hits you. Really nothing we can say is going to give you anything other than a starting point to find out for yourself. Obviously from many of hte posts some guys just figure its better to chuck the screen altogether and and stick to the zone 3 air (high pressure, low turbulence).

Myself, I do a LOT of very fast freeway travel (80-90mph) and it beats me up to have to hold on against that zone three air stream. The Boulevard windscreen gives me a lot of relief (about 75%) on my chest, but my shoulders are still in the zone 3 airflow. The zone 2 (high turbulence) hits me between the collarbone and neck, jsut missing hte bottom of my helmet which is all in the relatively clean zone 3 air.

Wanting to get less pressure for a long ride I was going to do (5 days, 1500miles) I purchased the clearview which looks great (uses the boulevard mounting hardware) and is 4 inches taller, two inches wider than stock. It did, in fact, lower the pressure on my chest taking ALL my chest and all my shoulders out of the higher pressure zones. Unfortunately it moved the hated zone 2 air right onto the lower half of my faceshield. Ouch. My neck was sore, my ears rang, my vision got blurry from all the bouncing around. To make it worse, the top half of my head was still in the high-pressure zone 3 air making me still have to press against the air flow.

Needless to say, I stopped using that screen as soon as I got back from that trip. I tried no shield for a couple of weeks, but jsut felt too fatigued after 60+ miles on freeways at 80+mph. Putting my feet on the passenger pegs and leaning into the wind helped a little, but that cramps the knees after a bit.

So I went back to the boulevard as the best compromise.

I have a 34" inseam, jsut like you, so your extra height is in your torso. That means that the boulevard is going ot be less effective for you than for me, althoguh you might do very well with the clearview *if* you dont crouch down too much. If you can keep that high turbulence part just under the helmet and your head in the clean air stream I would think thats as good as you can expect to do. If you do go for the clearview, you might want to consider asking for one made only 2 inches taller, but still 2 inches wider if oyu think that the turbulent air off the lip will hit you in the head.

Anyhow, all this feedback is worth exactly what you paid for it /emoticons/emotion-5.gif -- but it does represent a lot of playing with my hand in the airstream at various points around hte windscreen trying to figure out why a bigger screen made things worse.

Good luck to you and if you decide you want to try the clearview, pm me -- Ive got one of the useless things laying around here somewhere!!

JT
 

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I'm 6'4" and I have the Memphis Shades Pop Top.It is just a little to short,I get a little buffeting right at the top of my face shield,on the other hand it gets rid of the parachute effect on my chest at high speed.The Pop Top is only 16" tall so I'm thinking about going to the Big Shot which is 20",it would probably be perfect.They are also easy on easy off,loosen 4 allen screws and remove.
 

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Thanks for all the great feedback, it is much appreciated. DeathStar & Jaytee, thanks for taking the time for such a detailed & informative response as to your experiences. As well as all offered input by other members, thank you. I will review and take all into consideration when choosing my next step, I think it is now evidently clear that alot of variables that take place between rider and windshield type, if any need, be considered. I will keep checking back in and keep you posted as to my go forward choice for now. As I know that by the sounds of your feedback, it may not be a perfect solution / fit, first time round.

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This is my WindVest 16 x 16 with long mounting brackets. The greater than normal rake back (rather than mounting it more upright) is what makes it work, very little buffeting, but only with a full face as part of the air flow.

This is a sweet setup but I'm 5'10", don't know about 6'3".

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Matt, Doing the math, I think my Blvd windshield is like 12-13 inches tall.
So did you get the GT16 then, which is 15.5" tall?

quote:Originally posted by jaytee

Hi!

First off, I am 6'0". I have tried both the boulevard and the clearview (4 inches taller, 2 inches wider) and this is how I view windshields on the warrior.

There are three "zones" of air coming off the windshield:
1. Low Pressure, Moderate Turbulence -- this comes from directly behind the windshield in a bubble extending fromthe windshield towards you
2. Moderate Pressure, High Turbulence -- this comes off the lip of the windshield and increases in pressure, decreases in turbulence the further away from the windshield you are
3. High Pressure, Low Turbulence -- this is the clean airstream typical of no windscreen at all. If you are tall, then your head will likely be in this zone unless you have a very large windscreen.

It is VERY difficult (if not impossible) becasue of how far the windscreen is from your head, for a tall rider to be entirely in zone 1 (low pressure, mod turbulence). The trick then, is to find a windscreen that puts the majority of your body (chest and shoulders) in zone 1, without putting your face and ears in zone 2 (mod pressure, high turbulence). The complaining everyone does about the various windscreens causing buffetting is because that high turbulence air has moved up to their ears/eyes level and bounces their head around, making a lot of noise.

Now depending on whether or not you have stock handlebars, tend to slouch when riding, have an aftermarket seat that moves you forward (corbin solo) or back (stinger/rumble), or the speed you typically cruise at on highways will all determine where that hated Zone 2 (high turbulence, moderate pressure) hits you. Really nothing we can say is going to give you anything other than a starting point to find out for yourself. Obviously from many of hte posts some guys just figure its better to chuck the screen altogether and and stick to the zone 3 air (high pressure, low turbulence).

Myself, I do a LOT of very fast freeway travel (80-90mph) and it beats me up to have to hold on against that zone three air stream. The Boulevard windscreen gives me a lot of relief (about 75%) on my chest, but my shoulders are still in the zone 3 airflow. The zone 2 (high turbulence) hits me between the collarbone and neck, jsut missing hte bottom of my helmet which is all in the relatively clean zone 3 air.

Wanting to get less pressure for a long ride I was going to do (5 days, 1500miles) I purchased the clearview which looks great (uses the boulevard mounting hardware) and is 4 inches taller, two inches wider than stock. It did, in fact, lower the pressure on my chest taking ALL my chest and all my shoulders out of the higher pressure zones. Unfortunately it moved the hated zone 2 air right onto the lower half of my faceshield. Ouch. My neck was sore, my ears rang, my vision got blurry from all the bouncing around. To make it worse, the top half of my head was still in the high-pressure zone 3 air making me still have to press against the air flow.

Needless to say, I stopped using that screen as soon as I got back from that trip. I tried no shield for a couple of weeks, but jsut felt too fatigued after 60+ miles on freeways at 80+mph. Putting my feet on the passenger pegs and leaning into the wind helped a little, but that cramps the knees after a bit.

So I went back to the boulevard as the best compromise.

I have a 34" inseam, jsut like you, so your extra height is in your torso. That means that the boulevard is going ot be less effective for you than for me, althoguh you might do very well with the clearview *if* you dont crouch down too much. If you can keep that high turbulence part just under the helmet and your head in the clean air stream I would think thats as good as you can expect to do. If you do go for the clearview, you might want to consider asking for one made only 2 inches taller, but still 2 inches wider if oyu think that the turbulent air off the lip will hit you in the head.

Anyhow, all this feedback is worth exactly what you paid for it /emoticons/emotion-5.gif -- but it does represent a lot of playing with my hand in the airstream at various points around hte windscreen trying to figure out why a bigger screen made things worse.

Good luck to you and if you decide you want to try the clearview, pm me -- Ive got one of the useless things laying around here somewhere!!

JT
 

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quote:Originally posted by ArizonaWarrior


Matt, Doing the math, I think my Blvd windshield is like 12-13 inches tall.
So did you get the GT16 then, which is 15.5" tall?


Mike,

That's correct if you measure from the top of the windshield down the middle to the top of the arch which goes over the tach unit.

I dont actually remember the model number, but I went out there jsut now and measured it and its actually 15 3/4". The "daily commuter" pic in my gallery shows the clearview mounted.

Hope this helps!


JT
 

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quote:Originally posted by jaytee

Hi!

First off, I am 6'0". I have tried both the boulevard and the clearview (4 inches taller, 2 inches wider) and this is how I view windshields on the warrior.

There are three "zones" of air coming off the windshield:
1. Low Pressure, Moderate Turbulence -- this comes from directly behind the windshield in a bubble extending fromthe windshield towards you
2. Moderate Pressure, High Turbulence -- this comes off the lip of the windshield and increases in pressure, decreases in turbulence the further away from the windshield you are
3. High Pressure, Low Turbulence -- this is the clean airstream typical of no windscreen at all. If you are tall, then your head will likely be in this zone unless you have a very large windscreen.

It is VERY difficult (if not impossible) becasue of how far the windscreen is from your head, for a tall rider to be entirely in zone 1 (low pressure, mod turbulence). The trick then, is to find a windscreen that puts the majority of your body (chest and shoulders) in zone 1, without putting your face and ears in zone 2 (mod pressure, high turbulence). The complaining everyone does about the various windscreens causing buffetting is because that high turbulence air has moved up to their ears/eyes level and bounces their head around, making a lot of noise.

Now depending on whether or not you have stock handlebars, tend to slouch when riding, have an aftermarket seat that moves you forward (corbin solo) or back (stinger/rumble), or the speed you typically cruise at on highways will all determine where that hated Zone 2 (high turbulence, moderate pressure) hits you. Really nothing we can say is going to give you anything other than a starting point to find out for yourself. Obviously from many of hte posts some guys just figure its better to chuck the screen altogether and and stick to the zone 3 air (high pressure, low turbulence).

Myself, I do a LOT of very fast freeway travel (80-90mph) and it beats me up to have to hold on against that zone three air stream. The Boulevard windscreen gives me a lot of relief (about 75%) on my chest, but my shoulders are still in the zone 3 airflow. The zone 2 (high turbulence) hits me between the collarbone and neck, jsut missing hte bottom of my helmet which is all in the relatively clean zone 3 air.

Wanting to get less pressure for a long ride I was going to do (5 days, 1500miles) I purchased the clearview which looks great (uses the boulevard mounting hardware) and is 4 inches taller, two inches wider than stock. It did, in fact, lower the pressure on my chest taking ALL my chest and all my shoulders out of the higher pressure zones. Unfortunately it moved the hated zone 2 air right onto the lower half of my faceshield. Ouch. My neck was sore, my ears rang, my vision got blurry from all the bouncing around. To make it worse, the top half of my head was still in the high-pressure zone 3 air making me still have to press against the air flow.

Needless to say, I stopped using that screen as soon as I got back from that trip. I tried no shield for a couple of weeks, but jsut felt too fatigued after 60+ miles on freeways at 80+mph. Putting my feet on the passenger pegs and leaning into the wind helped a little, but that cramps the knees after a bit.

So I went back to the boulevard as the best compromise.

I have a 34" inseam, jsut like you, so your extra height is in your torso. That means that the boulevard is going ot be less effective for you than for me, althoguh you might do very well with the clearview *if* you dont crouch down too much. If you can keep that high turbulence part just under the helmet and your head in the clean air stream I would think thats as good as you can expect to do. If you do go for the clearview, you might want to consider asking for one made only 2 inches taller, but still 2 inches wider if oyu think that the turbulent air off the lip will hit you in the head.

Anyhow, all this feedback is worth exactly what you paid for it /emoticons/emotion-5.gif -- but it does represent a lot of playing with my hand in the airstream at various points around hte windscreen trying to figure out why a bigger screen made things worse.

Good luck to you and if you decide you want to try the clearview, pm me -- Ive got one of the useless things laying around here somewhere!!

JT

jaytee,
What would you expect if you went to the 20" Clearview?
 

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Have you considered the laminar lip? It is an inverted airfoil that attaches to the Warrior mini fairing and creates an air pocket that directs the air flowing above your head and also creates an air bubble around the driver, here is their linkhttp://www.laminarlip.com/touringlips.htm
It worked great on my V Max so much that I was able to talk to my buddies while traveling or when on the cell (hands free of course.
I have the Memphis Fats and the Boulevard. At highway speed the Fats acts like a sail so only use it in the rain and the Boulevard in good weather. Had I researched more I would have gone with the Clearview G-20 as Ohiomike has said the larger Clearview fits the Boulevard mountings.
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Hey, welcome fellow CDN rider. I am 6'6" and had the big memphis shades shield on. I found it blasted me in the face. Not sure how it would work for you being 3" shorter. I have always worn a full faced helmet. The windshield is good for fatigue in chest and arms, but the constant jetstream in the face was too much. It is now cut up and on my wifes bike. The shield was very easy to put on/take off. I just recently bought a solo seat with backreat to help out on all the pressure on chest and arms.
 

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quote:Originally posted by gman
jaytee,
What would you expect if you went to the 20" Clearview?


I would expect in my seating position and my size that the 20" would still hit me.

However...

If I moved my pegs back (no 3" extensions), got forward bars, and crouched a bit more agressively, I think the 20" might jsut clear the top of my head.

The main problem is that the turbulent air off that lip keeps getting bigger the further you are away fromthe shield, so if you have a lot of pull-back in your bars and you kinda lean back a little mroe relaxed riding position, then you are going to catch it in the face even with a large shield, IMHO.

Hope this helps!

JT

PS: rememebr that I am 6'0", 34" inseam with 3" lightening extensions and baron floorboards using a stock '05 bar setup.
 
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