am I the only one or is there anybody else have a hard clunk while putting in first gear or down shifting. I do use the clutch all the time when I'm down shifting and it has the clunk still.
well one thing is you should go thru the gears as you slow so the trans can mesh as you shift . try holding the clutch in for a few seconds then shift from neutral to 1st gear. might check your front pulley and gear oil in the transfer case. look for any shaft play too. btk572I've played with the clutch cable many times and have removed my belt and ran it lose and tight through out the time i've had my bike and there's never been a change on how hard it goes into gears. I don't down shift while in a high rpm and even if I coast from 5 th gear and pull the clutch while slowing to a stop then down shift from 5th to 1 while stopped it clunks through every gear. I only have around 23,000 miles. I know there is usually noise on bikes but it just feels like its to hard and is loud. An example of how it sounds and hard it is, its probably like if you hold the brake, throttle, RPMs about 1200 then shift to a gear.
I have also had my rpm set at 800 through 950 and it still had the same affect. I just don't want something to get damaged or get worse then it is and have a very expensive repair.
Hard shifting... CLUNK
The Warrior has a typical modern 5-speed motorcycle transmission that is constant mesh (all gear sets are engaged with each other at all times) and shifting is done sequentially which means there is no skipping thru the gears. The clunking is the sliding engagement dog picking up the spinning gear and is typical to this design. Especially noticeable when dropping down into 1st gear from neutral.
Here’s a recent thread by Churchkey on a related issue:Clutch Issue????? : Clutch Issue????? - Road Star Warrior Forum : Yamaha Star Warrior Forums:
Thanks for the ideas, everyone. I finally got around to checking it out (that pesky job is getting in the way) I put it up on the lift and here is what I found:
...no noise from the rear wheel spinning it in neutral
...brake pads rubbing in the front making a little noise, will clean but I don't think it's significant
...started the bike and engaged first gear, didn't notice anything excessive
...took off the front pulley cover, nut was tight, it was dirty but I didn't notice any red dust, the nut holding it on was different than the one in the manual, no tabs but it was staked, have you seen that?
What I'm not sure about is that when the bike is off and I put it in 1st gear, I can't rotate the rear wheel with the clutch in, is this normal? Also, when the bike is running and I put it in 1st, the back wheel spins even with the clutch pulled in.
- '06' & > use a different middle shaft as well as a new style crush-nut and conical washer.
I think the noise I am hearing is coming when I am rolling in gear, even with the clutch in. When in gear, is the rear wheel turning the transmission even with the clutch pulled in?
If that is not how it is supposed to work, the clutch may not be engaging fully. Test riding this afternoon to re-assess.
- Yes it is ... the Warrior has a constant mesh trans which is the norm for MC's, when not in neutral the gear 'dogs' are engaged and the trans input shaft is disengaged by the wet clutch which has some friction.
- On a higher mileage bike the noise could be from the throw out bearing on the clutch plate which will emulate from the left engine cover where it resides.
Oil was changed about 1,000 miles ago and is up to level,
I'm not going to worry about it anymore since it sounds normal. Thanks guys..
I changed to royal purple 20-50 and it quieted mine down some but it still makes a little noise. Not as bad though
link dont work ???? no good explanation for the clunk ,clink noise, lol btk572It occurs to me it might be good to illustrate exactly where the clunking is coming from because some of our (including my) comments over the years may be unintentionally misleading. So I did some searching but could only find the following youtube, its a riding lawnmower transmission but its good enough to explain constant mesh: constant mesh gearbox explained - YouTube
There's a couple old threads around this joint with pics of the actual gears un-assembled, you'll see the inner design of the Warrior's gears from that.
link dont work ???? no good explanation for the clunk ,clink noise, lol btk572