What's resale anyways if you can't find anyone to buy it!!!

Tell my buddie about resale. He has a Sporty for sale for 7 months. Has had one person look at it. The market is flooded with them. Everybody is buying one thinking they can ride it for a year and get there money back out of it. That's just not the case.

Your also missing the point noone is paying $14000 to $15000 for a Warrior. Try $11000- $9000 for new. $7000 to $12000 for use with lots of mods. When I got mine I couldn't find a used so I bought new. Now you can find them used for good prices because they have been out for awhile.

I was a Fatboy guy but I realized that it wasn't worth the price and I would never be truly happy with it. Plus I'd be like every other turd and trying to sell my bike a year later because I realized it wasn't that speacial. Plus I like to have something everybody else doesn't have.

I'm sure you'll find a nice Aniversary for sale this winter. Since everyboby bought one. The Warrior is going to have a better resale because the market is not going to be flooded.

 

Buy her a vibrator to wear while she rides on your Warrior. That should satisify her.

 

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quote]Originally posted by Masterblaster

I've owned Harleys for over 10 years and my wife liked saying "we have a harley" When I was deciding on a new bike (to replace the Road King)it was between a 03 Fatboy and a Warrior but I wanted a fat Tire so that meant the Fatboy was going to be 18,000 + 5,000 for the fat tire. I still need pipes, carb work and a Bigbore kit add another 2,500 that totalled out a 26,000. So I bought a used 02 Warrior for 8,000. I am happy with my purchase but my wife says I should have bought the Harley (Got to love a woman who didn't care if I spent 26,000 on a bike). As far as New Harleys go I hate to disappoint Harley Bashers but the Twin Cam is also a GREAT engine and will also last forever and a day. the days of bashing Harley reliability are over but they are still overpriced. With guys like Bismark and his 240 Tire kit and awesome chrome work you really can build a Custom for a lot less than a stock Harley will cost.


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quote:Originally posted by Sleepytime

Back to this battle, again. Quality vs. Resale. I know that at the end of 5 years I can sell or trade in a warrior and not loose too much between maintenance and mods. As far as a Harley goes, by the time 5 years is up, between insurance, can't really call them mods when the org. part sucked and needed to be replace anyways, and maintenance you've double the cost of the bike ... oh, but if you bought it for 17,000 some how you'll get 17,000+ for it ... yeah, right. Yur still out 10,000+ for all the work you had to do on it. Where's that resale value now?
Funny thing is you can take a Warrior, put 5,000 worth of mods on it. The bike will not only out-perform all Harleys, it will still last forever and a day!!!
Anyways, this rant might be a moot point if my wife doesn't win the car. So, PRAY THAT SHE WIN THE CAR! I'LL BE GETTING MY WARRIOR SOON AFTER!!!

 

Musthave - FYI...Another site I'm on has two other Brunos, and we distinguish oourselves by our zip codes. This is my personal e-address, my business address which also ends in 90210 makes more sense. My address, which seems to trouble some people, doesn't make H-D riders any less of a group of posers.

 

It all comes down to logic. Paying 23,000 for a stock bike just doesn't make sense to me. Not only is the Warrior thousands less, but it also out performs Harley's without any modification done to it.
I've got to make her realize that this supposed resale won't mean a hill of beans since everyone bought a Harley.
I'm about ready to say screw it and just get the R1!!!

 

If she's stuck on the resale value thing, here's one thing to remember. Unless you plan on paying cash for the bike, the finance charges will make a big difference. at 9% intrest for 60 months, the difference between the Harley ($20,000) and the Warrior ($10,000) is about $2,450 just in intrest. So in essence, the Harley is starting out $2,450 in the hole as soon as you sign the papers.

 

quote:My address, which seems to trouble some people, doesn't make H-D riders any less of a group of posers.

Doesn't make you any less of an ass either. Don't judge people you don't know and don't stereotype people by the bike they ride. I can say that all Yamaha owners are unpatriotic because they don't buy American. I could say that anyone who would buy a Warrior over an FJR is a poser because they sacrificed acceleration, handling, braking, fuel economy, and cargo carrying ability for looks and style. I have logged enough miles on my Harley to travel around the world several times and plan to do the same on my Warrior. I guess I'm just a poser too.

 

Wow this turned ugly fast!

 

Sleepy we are all trying to help you out with your situation. Realize we are all passionate about our choice to ride a Warrior. Let me list a few thoughts for you here -

Resale is not something to be considered when buying a disposable item (bike, car, boat etc) as the resale value can vary widely based on the condition/economy. There are tons of HD's in the Cycle Trader and always will be. A home or land is different topic and are still prone to some issues.

Harley has a hood. However, we Warriors have our own hood (very tight knit) as evidenced by this website. And we get together for rides as evidenced by the group that I got together with and rode the Tail of the Dragon... also see Ride Clubs.

Entry Cost Value is comfortable.

Modifying is very reasonable - pipes, PCIII, Air Kits, Bars, Chroming, etc could still be in the neighborhood of base HD. I think I can mod a Warrior to show/performance for less than a base HD.

Unique, and since you don't see too many, you'll discover people will come up to look and talk with you!!!!!

Cruise or Carve - with the Warrior the choice is yours!!!!!

Support - RSWarrior members and the vendors that post here.

02 AMA ProStar HotRod Cruiser Class - 1st Place Warrior

Women are attracted to this bike (this may be your real problem, other women coming up to look at it)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On and on and on, blah, blah, blah.

 

Aj, I absoulutely agree with you 100%. The furthest thought from my mind when I choose any sort of vehicle is it's resale value, whether it be a bike, truck, car, etc. My wife, however, is more drawn towards it (I blame her money grubbing father for that stigma).
Passion in riding is the first step. Passion in your ride is the next. That is what most newbie-Harley rides miss. All they see is Harley-Davidson: Status Symbol. Their problem is most of them can't even change a spark-plug, let alone know where to put oil in it (Harley dealers love these people, their stock goes up everytime a RUB walks in the door).
My first bike was just that, my first bike. It was affordable, but most of all it was a Yamaha. I've been hooked on Yamahas ever since. I liked the bike and it was an excellent starter bike. Now it is time I became not only passionate about riding, but also about what I ride. I can't do that with a Harley. I've always hated the thought of just becoming another number on the road and that's exactly what I'll be with a Harley.
A Warrior, on the other hand,I can be passionate about. Harley wanna be? Show me a Harley that looks like that stock and I'll show you a guy who can use his johnson as a bungie cord.
My wife even said she liked the looks of a Warrior, it was just the trach can muffler that made her wince. I keep on telling her that for 400 bucks we can change that and still be far under a base Harley. Then resale is brought up. Next time it's brought up I'm going to remind her that everybody and their cat has a Harley. Then I'm going to remind her what happens when the market gets flooded by one product...tactfully.

This spring I predict that there will be a full 10 pages dedicated to the sale of Harleys in the Want Ads. In fact, I predict this as one of those ads:

For Sale: 2003 Harley Fatboy. 88CI. Lots of chrome. New carb and heads. V&H exhaust. Screaming Eagle intake. Must sell. Buying a Warrior.

 

Well I'll chime in here and say that the "Trash Can" exhaust is what SOLD me on the Warrior.
I've always been a S$%^ disturber kinda guy and LOVE it when people GAUWK and say "look at the size of that Muffler, where did you get it"?[:0]
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BTW my wife and I have 8 indoor cats.
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Roger

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quote:Originally posted by Sleepytime

Aj, I absoulutely agree with you 100%.
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My wife even said she liked the looks of a Warrior, it was just the trach can muffler that made her wince. I keep on telling her that for 400 bucks we can change that and still be far under a base Harley. Then resale is brought up. Next time it's brought up I'm going to remind her that everybody and their cat has a Harley. Then I'm going to remind her what happens when the market gets flooded by one product...tactfully.

This spring I predict that there will be a full 10 pages dedicated to the sale of Harleys in the Want Ads. In fact, I predict this as one of those ads:

For Sale: 2003 Harley Fatboy. 88CI. Lots of chrome. New carb and heads. V&H exhaust. Screaming Eagle intake. Must sell. Buying a Warrior.

 

Sleepy you may want to look in the Gallery at Monster's ride as a pic to show the wife. Tell her - "this is the Harley (long, loooonnng, loooooonnnnnng pause) that you want to get". After she say's ok, confess to the fact that it is absolutely beautiful, and a Warrior. I hope she doesn't beat the #%!t out of you. Oh yeah if she say's there is no passenger seat tell her you plan to have a pillion for her. Also remind her she'll make the bike look even better. No matter how hard she tries she can't make a Harley look any different than it's already f'ugliness. Face it, some babies are just **** ugly.

 

Pillon ****!

Tell her to get her OWN bike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In OUR house there is no such word as "Two Up" in our vocabulary!

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Roger
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quote:Originally posted by ajwarrior

Sleepy you may want to look in the Gallery at Monster's ride as a pic to show the wife. Tell her - "this is the Harley (long, loooonnng, loooooonnnnnng pause) that you want to get". After she say's ok, confess to the fact that it is absolutely beautiful, and a Warrior. I hope she doesn't beat the #%!t out of you. Oh yeah if she say's there is no passenger seat tell her you plan to have a pillion for her. Also remind her she'll make the bike look even better. No matter how hard she tries she can't make a Harley look any different than it's already f'ugliness. Face it, some babies are just **** ugly.

 

Wwotr,
Please take no offense, I was mearly tryng to make a point, I know cats have better sense than to buy a Harley.

When I first sarted to look for a new bike I won't lie, I was looing into the R1. But my wife said she'd never ride it. Too uncomfortable. So a cruizer it was. Now, I knew about the Warrior and I had already been attracted by it's sexy lines. As the story goes her brother starts yapping about resale of a Harley (he's got a Sportster 1200) and she bought into it. I, on the other hand didn't give a sh*t about resale and was looking at it front the power/pref. angle (plus I know the resale BS is a lie). So, needless to say we arn't exactly seeing eye to eye on the whole bike issue, but when it comes down to the bottom line, I'm the one twisting the throttle. I'm not trying to sound like Mr. Dictator, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna shell out 23,000 for a bike that's got a better chance of breaking down than me winning the lottery! It just doen't make sense.

Simple equation:
Warrior = /emoticons/emotion-1.gif
Harley = (what's the symbol of someone pushing a bike home?)
Don't call me Einstien just yet, save that for when I finally convince my wife that a Harley isn't worth the trouble.
Still trying to come up with and equation for that one. Something to do with Warrior + Wifes a$$ ...
I got plenty of time to convince her. Spring is 5 months away.

Oh, BTW, she didn't win the car, **** it... but that don't matter! I can afford a Warrior now!!! I just want to get rid of my **** school loan first.

 

Your brotherinlaw will have lots of time to think of resale value as he watches your tail light pull away for him at each light, or sitting at the side of the road hopeing you'll notice he's missing and come back for him.

 

ErnC, I know that and you know that, but it seems that Harley riders are in some sort of denial when it comes to breaking down. I've been told repeatedly by him that the quality of Harleys today in much better than that of years ago. My question is, then why is it the first thing to do when you get a Harley is get a better carburator? I thought that the point of upgrading was just to make it run better, not to make it run right. But what do I know...
With factors like quality, value, mantenance and performance the Warrior is the clear winner. I haven't read any threads saying that their Warrior is leaving a pool of oil on the garage floor over night.

 

Sleepytime , With all due respect my man it is time to wake up!! I just noticed you have virago status on this forum , and you don't have a bike ?? Time to get off the pot brother . Dude your brother inlaw rides a sporty thats a halfa harley at best . Bitchslap his punkass and tell him to mind his own business..Then sit down with momma and make a decision . Do it today . Time to Man-Up Motha F@&ka. Your makin us East Coast boyz look bad .. just my oppinion sorry....

 

Point taken, MX. I just bought a truck, so thats the only thing stopping me from getting a Warrior this season. I had only half a truck, a Chevy S-10 with a 4-banger, and I knew it was time to upgrade when I was passed by a 10-wheeler going up hill. Now I have a Chevy Avalanche, so that issue is taken care of. This comming spring, however, is open game. It's in my plan to get the Warrior this spring, possibly end of winter (hitting the low prices), but my wife has different ideas. It will take a little time to convince her to get a bike this spring, but I have 5 months to do that. One I show her that the prices are the best during the winter (but pickings are a little slim) she should reconsider. Or I could just show up with it and plan on sleeping on the couch for the next 5 months...

 

It's always easier to get forgiveness than permission.
Personaly I just waited till my wife was in one of those moods where she said FINE! Do whatever you want. And I did. As for taking advice from guys who ride sportsters, C'mon now. He's just trying to avoid being embarassed.

 

Either he's trying to avoid embarassment or he needs one more person to share in it while pushing his bike back home. I guess he doesn't like the thought of me litterally driving circles around him while he pushes repeatedly asking him if he needs a hand... cuz I would do that. I don't know if he'd get my sense of humor at that point, but, in time, I'm sure we'd sit back and laugh about it.
I don't want to bring it to that point of "FINE, Do whatever you want to do". I'd much rather get thru here stuborn Italian hang-up and prove to her that a Warrior is the way to go. It's not hard to do, I just have to play my cards right.

 

quote:Originally posted by mxgod630

Sleepytime , With all due respect my man it is time to wake up!! I just noticed you have virago status on this forum , and you don't have a bike ?? Time to get off the pot brother . Dude your brother inlaw rides a sporty thats a halfa harley at best . Bitchslap his punkass and tell him to mind his own business..Then sit down with momma and make a decision . Do it today . Time to Man-Up Motha F@&ka. Your makin us East Coast boyz look bad .. just my oppinion sorry....

DITTO !!!, It's nice to have you as part of this website but get over it already, I'm getting tired of seeing this topic pop up every day. [B)]F' the truck too, you need to be focused on one thing if you can't afford both. I drive a 97 Dakota with faded black paint and a smashed in front fender, sure I'd rather be in a 4x4 dually diesel qaud cab Ram 3500 but my priorities are not the same as yours. Since your stuck with that ugly truck your gonna have to eat crow if money is the issue, otherwise get off your azz and get a the **** bike. Your killing me here.[xx(]

 

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"I don't want to bring it to that point of "FINE, Do whatever you want to do". I'd much rather get thru here stuborn Italian hang-up and prove to her that a Warrior is the way to go. It's not hard to do, I just have to play my cards right."
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I can't believe this thread has lasted so long. It must be a record for the most amount of twaddle producing the least amount of useful information.
'Storm Troopers of Death' have an old album out called 'Speak English or Die'. I don't necessarily agree with the title of the album but there is a song on it called 'P&%$ywhipped' that I think you may want to have listen to Sleepy.
Sell the truck, buy the bike, get on with your life so we can end this topic.

 

Hey Spokes, opinions are like...
If you're bored with this topic then why did you click on it? As far as the truck goes, winter's on it's way and the thought breaking down (and it always seems to wait until the coldest day of winter for me) didn't appeal to me so it was either get ready to do some walking in the cold or cowboy up and get a new truck. It was a battle to get to that point because my wife thought that it wasn't needed. So as far as pu$$y whipped, no, I am not. I got the truck I wanted when I wanted. Now, as far as priorites and a bike? The bike can wait, the riding season is over.
I don't know about you, but I love my wife and I respect her. Even though she's wrong about thinking that buying a Harley is better, I have to respect that. As far as money goes it makes more sense to me to have roof over my head and food on my table at this point in time.
I will get a Warrior, no doubt, but it will be at the right time.
The only thing that will hold me up is ... what color?!?!?! Soooo many nice colors .. which one is the fastest?

 

I agree sleepy.
Sometimes there's just too much Testosterone floating around!
I'm in my mid 40's and been married for 14 years.(2nd time around)
It SO much easier to get along with your wife and talk things out.
For me it's easy.I give the wife may paycheck and she pays the bills.
Because she does that, I know have a beautiful house and 2 Motorcycles and on my birthday I received a 67 Chevy 1/2 Ton Hot Rod to call my own!
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All this Crap about ***** Whipped is a bunch of bullS$%^!
I get along just fine with my wife AND get the things I want too!
It helps when your wife is into Motorcycles and has 2 of her own AND we BOTH have a Love Affair with cars.
We restore them, and then when a bike comes along that we can't live without then we sell the car to get the bike.[/emoticons/emotion-2.gif]
Yes you can have your cake and eat it too.
A real life experience from a Warrior owner.

Roger


Originally posted by Sleepytime

Hey Spokes, opinions are like...
If you're bored with this topic then why did you click on it? As far as the truck goes, winter's on it's way and the thought breaking down (and it always seems to wait until the coldest day of winter for me) didn't appeal to me so it was either get ready to do some walking in the cold or cowboy up and get a new truck. It was a battle to get to that point because my wife thought that it wasn't needed. So as far as pu$$y whipped, no, I am not. I got the truck I wanted when I wanted. Now, as far as priorites and a bike? The bike can wait, the riding season is over.
I don't know about you, but I love my wife and I respect her. Even though she's wrong about thinking that buying a Harley is better, I have to respect that. As far as money goes it makes more sense to me to have roof over my head and food on my table at this point in time.
I will get a Warrior, no doubt, but it will be at the right time.
The only thing that will hold me up is ... what color?!?!?! Soooo many nice colors .. which one is the fastest?