well, it's not that, I am not running norton. I used to log in(RYoung) and it would show that I was logged, and say welcome! but now (with old login and new) it doesn't seem to stick, tried on my other computer as well, all internet settings are free and easy. When I am roaming forums it says you must login to view pics in topics, but I log in and the site says I've logged in successfully, but nothing happens, I still can't see pics. I appreciate the help, though, Mike.