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you prefer a separate 'trade forum' or if you prefer to keep 'For Sale' and 'Trade'


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There is not a lot of participation here.
I don't think it is prudent to let 50 or so members,( or 1/2 that) speak for a membership of thousands.
Hopefully you will look at the commentary and strength of the points made and not just numbers.
Only a random few have stumbled upon this thread.
Hopefully some uncommon sense will prevail here.
uncommom sense...huh...hahahaha - thought that we had that in bucket loads

we don't need common sense when we got laws now do we :D
 

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To enhance readership and reply comments I've clarified the thread Title to: Member Poll on Proposed 'For Trade' Forum

My opinion on the reply post numbers is simple. This is an international forum and to a great extent common sense is learned socially so what's sensible in one place may be acceptable elsewhere meaning its not the forum's place to stomp on member ideas on that basis. As always is the case everywhere, not just here, those who log-in and participate often have the opportunity to make their own case for change. Those who log-in less often are less effected and those who seldom visit are seldom effected, so from that view those who participate less also have less opportunity to make their own case for change. I suppose members can email members who haven't logged-in for awhile, but there's not much the forum can do.

In the middle of all this, please remember this isn't really a vote its a Poll. The decision to add this forum would then be subjected to moderator's looking at everything that has been said and trying to determine what is best for those who show up and participate regularly. To do anything else is guesswork and we don't know how those absent would comment. So as far as the forum is concerned none of us have decided anything yet.

Speaking only for myself I believe we want to encourage as many views on this topic to be posted as possible and we don't want to tell people what to say. This is a biker forum, we are individuals, people here can decide for themselves if the Trades forum would make their lives easier or more time-consuming and they can either post up or stay silent. Their choices. No worries.
 

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Really?

There is not a lot of participation here.
I don't think it is prudent to let 50 or so members,( or 1/2 that) speak for a membership of thousands.
Hopefully you will look at the commentary and strength of the points made and not just numbers.
Only a random few have stumbled upon this thread.
Hopefully some uncommon sense will prevail here.
Is that thousands of active members that regularly participate in the forum? Are you proposing that the Moderators wait until 50, or 500, or X number of other members "stumble" upon this thread and participate? How long should they wait before someone will complain that they are not acknowledging member’s requests in an appropriate time frame?

By the replies the Mods have posted, they are paying attention to the commentary and not just the numbers.

"Hopefully some uncommon sense will prevail here." What about this thread calls for that statement?
 

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The poll runs until the 28th IMO anything can happen its all up to members making the case for what they personally want and leaving it to others to make their own case.
Who exactly are we making a case against? Everytime I have ever spoken with Admin about subject matter on this forum they have made it clear to me that the moderators pretty much run this forum in reguards to site content of this nature.
 

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There is not a lot of participation here.
I don't think it is prudent to let 50 or so members,( or 1/2 that) speak for a membership of thousands.
Hopefully you will look at the commentary and strength of the points made and not just numbers.
Only a random few have stumbled upon this thread.
Hopefully some uncommon sense will prevail here.
uncommom sense...huh...hahahaha - thought that we had that in bucket loads

we don't need common sense when we got laws now do we :D
Is that thousands of active members that regularly participate in the forum? You are asking the wrong person. Are you proposing that the Moderators wait until 50, or 500, or X number of other members "stumble" upon this thread and participate? No .
How long should they wait before someone will complain that they are not acknowledging member’s requests in an appropriate time frame? You are asking the wrong person.

By the replies the Mods have posted, they are paying attention to the commentary and not just the numbers. Actually Sang's comment prior to my post said he would watch the voting and didn't mention the commentary. I noticed much of the voting ( without explanation or comments) seemed to be adding up opposite to the commentary. Hence, my comment.



"Hopefully some uncommon sense will prevail here." What about this thread calls for that statement? In case you haven't noticed , society in general and my personal hope called for that statement. As Tomba mentioned above and certainly in my experience there are way too many decisions made , and laws decreed on the basis of the desires of a few that achieve results which are very impractical and sometimes dangerous.
Hi Sherriism. Welcome to the forum! Really !
 

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Is that thousands of active members that regularly participate in the forum? You are asking the wrong person.

I am addressing your statements. Asking for clarification of your intention. Indeed I am asking the right person.

Are you proposing that the Moderators wait until 50, or 500, or X number of other members "stumble" upon this thread and participate? No .

Ok. Is there a better way to handle these propositions in your opinion?

How long should they wait before someone will complain that they are not acknowledging member’s requests in an appropriate time frame? You are asking the wrong person.

See responses above.

By the replies the Mods have posted, they are paying attention to the commentary and not just the numbers. Actually Sang's comment prior to my post said he would watch the voting and didn't mention the commentary. I noticed much of the voting ( without explanation or comments) seemed to be adding up opposite to the commentary. Hence, my comment.

And Arizonawarriors post prior to yours did. "I think we should keep this Poll going awhile longer and see if more members might post their helpful comments." I noticed this as well, and know this is being watched for.
Either way, a poll is a poll. The Admins have no control over who chooses to chime in and actually vote (or comment) and who does not.

"Hopefully some uncommon sense will prevail here." What about this thread calls for that statement? In case you haven't noticed , society in general and my personal hope called for that statement. As Tomba mentioned above and certainly in my experience there are way too many decisions made , and laws decreed on the basis of the desires of a few that achieve results which are very impractical and sometimes dangerous.

"In case you haven't noticed..." Now now, beginning your retort with lashing isn't very incisive. How is this relative to the simple subject matter of to create a seperate thread or not? Dangerous? This sounds more personal/political than simply a vote for a forum thread... or not. Not on point.

Hi Sherriism. Welcome to the forum!
I do feel welcome! I love it here.:D
 

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I do feel welcome! I love it here.:D
Have to go share some smiles and gibberish with my 11 week old wonderful boy. Sorry I don't have time to participate in your confrontational escalation of your unwarranted critique of my genuine post which originated in my great appreciation of and concern for this forum. Maybe another time!:cool:
 

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I had to vote no on this I have used the classifieds and like the idea off hving to just click mon that and see everything for sale trade or otherwise-make it simple-:D
 

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Have to go share some smiles and gibberish with my 11 week old wonderful boy. Sorry I don't have time to participate in your confrontational escalation of your unwarranted critique of my genuine post which originated in my great appreciation of and concern for this forum. Maybe another time!:cool:
I never knew a trade section would be so detrimental to the forum.
 

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There is not a lot of participation here.
I don't think it is prudent to let 50 or so members,( or 1/2 that) speak for a membership of thousands.
Hopefully you will look at the commentary and strength of the points made and not just numbers.
Only a random few have stumbled upon this thread.
Hopefully some uncommon sense will prevail here.
Is that thousands of active members that regularly participate in the forum? Are you proposing that the Moderators wait until 50, or 500, or X number of other members "stumble" upon this thread and participate? How long should they wait before someone will complain that they are not acknowledging member’s requests in an appropriate time frame?

By the replies the Mods have posted, they are paying attention to the commentary and not just the numbers.

"Hopefully some uncommon sense will prevail here." What about this thread calls for that statement?
Hi Sherriism. Welcome to the forum! Really !
I do feel welcome! I love it here.:D
Is that thousands of active members that regularly participate in the forum? You are asking the wrong person.

I am addressing your statements. Asking for clarification of your intention. Indeed I am asking the right person.

This is a clear statement and I already conveyed it :There is not a lot of participation here.
I don't think it is prudent to let 50 or so members,( or 1/2 that) speak for a membership of thousands.
Hopefully you will look at the commentary and strength of the points made and not just numbers.

Are you proposing that the Moderators wait until 50, or 500, or X number of other members "stumble" upon this thread and participate? No .

Ok. Is there a better way to handle these propositions in your opinion?
Yes. As I have already stated most of the members who have taken time to explain their position feel it would be more practical and user friendly to have one forum to look in for such items. People who feel otherwise are welcome to post up and explain why. I feel that is much better information for consideration than numbers in a poll.

How long should they wait before someone will complain that they are not acknowledging member’s requests in an appropriate time frame? You are asking the wrong person.

See responses above.

You are asking the wrong person.

By the replies the Mods have posted, they are paying attention to the commentary and not just the numbers. Actually Sang's comment prior to my post said he would watch the voting and didn't mention the commentary. I noticed much of the voting ( without explanation or comments) seemed to be adding up opposite to the commentary. Hence, my comment.

And Arizonawarriors post prior to yours did. "I think we should keep this Poll going awhile longer and see if more members might post their helpful comments." I noticed this as well, and know this is being watched for.
Either way, a poll is a poll. The Admins have no control over who chooses to chime in and actually vote (or comment) and who does not.

Yes . Don't seem to be seeing much helpful commentary from you or MadTom. I would welcome it.


"Hopefully some uncommon sense will prevail here." What about this thread calls for that statement? In case you haven't noticed , society in general and my personal hope called for that statement. As Tomba mentioned above and certainly in my experience there are way too many decisions made , and laws decreed on the basis of the desires of a few that achieve results which are very impractical and sometimes dangerous.

"In case you haven't noticed..." Now now, beginning your retort with lashing isn't very incisive. How is this relative to the simple subject matter of to create a seperate thread or not? Dangerous? This sounds more personal/political than simply a vote for a forum thread... or not. Not on point.

Not a retort and not lashing. Just an answer to your question. Common sense ( seemingly becoming uncommon) is relative to any prudent decision making process. Are you really making an issue of whether or not I have experienced decision making that resulted in impractical or dangerous dynamics. That's not something I care to dignify with further comment.

Again, the motivation for my original posts is pure and I made them because I care about the forum.
Unlike some, I don't enjoy when my time has to be wasted with interaction that has degenerated to this.
With all due respect.
Bruce.
 

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Calm down sir its just a trade section poll. Please don't drag my name into your rant because i don't think a trade section is that bad of a idea. Do I feel like writing a long winded essay on why I think it's a good idea.....no I voted. If the purpose of this thread is to debate which side is right untill people start getting angry/ passive agressive with each other we might as well allow politics. Most members probaly see the BS that's going on in this thread and don't want to bother with commenting so let's try to keep it civil and get more participation.
 

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In this economy Bartering has become more prevalent. I don't have a whole lot of time to dedicate to the Forum so narrowing down to me would be helpful. That way if I happen to have the cash to buy something I could go the the "For Sale" section for a quick browse. If cash is tight but I have things to trade/barter I could quickly browse that section. My .02 :)
 
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