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Someone please explain this to me.. HELP!!!

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2.3K views 27 replies 13 participants last post by  jimboman  
#1 ·
OK, background - ordered new chromed levers for the honey...

Replaced the front brake side in about 3 minutes, very easy. Loosened clutch cable and pulled the clutch lever off and cable out, no problems. Pulled the brass bushing out and put the lever in and the bolt.... Tightened slightly. Pulled back on the lever and noticed it wiggle a bit from side to side.... OOOPS! forgot to put the brass bushing back in. OK, now I try to loosen the nut back up and it's not unthreading. WTF??!!?? The bolt isn't spinning...

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.... while I turn the nut....

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.... I don't understand...

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So, the bolt doesn't turn with the nut in either direction, and yet the nut doesn't thread in either direction - just spins. Couldn't have busted threads, or it would be stuck altogether - right? I've tried heating it, twisting it in all directions - I'm at a total loss... Please help!!!
 
#5 ·
Dave, can't tell if its in the groove, but its certainly not turning... This kind of defies all laws of physics, and left loosey righty tighty, that I know of... Now I'm pissed.... How is it possible for the bolt to remain stationary, and the nut to spin without threading in either direction...? $1.00 to the person that can answer that question... It's not cross-threaded, and there's plenty of slack/slop/whatever where the lever hinges around the bolt - due to no bushing of course. Makes no sense!
 
#11 ·
Well, I think busting the nut is the only option available at this point. Just gave the top of the bolt a good couple of whacks to get a slot started and didn't even put a dent in it.... Any suggestions on how to break the nut off without damaging the bolt - or is that a stretch? Dremel it is... didn't even think about that...
 
#14 ·
quote:Originally posted by PigDog

could it be that youre dealing with a stud that was swedged into the pivot & the swedge came loose, makeing it spin?


Possible, but I can't tell... the bolt moves from side to side a little with movement of the clutch lever. Also, the nut will turn maybe 1/16 of a turn by hand, and the bolt turns that much with it. But if I push down on the bolt and try to unthread the nut, pull down on the nut while trying to unthread it, twist the lever so the bolt is at a slight angle and try to unthread - no luck! I'll cut the nut off tomorrow...
 
#16 ·
Yep to the nylon insert, its still on there. I was thinking about trying to pull the cable out with the lever still on there, giving me a little more leverage to torque around with the lever a bit more... I'm resigned to the fact that I'll grab my dremel from work and cut the F#$%er off tomorrow... I'm gonna go watch Monster house now and go laugh at other people destroy perfectly good homes and turn them into themeparks... Thanks for your input, I'll give you an update tomorrow...
 
#22 ·
Just talked to a machinist buddy of mine here at work. Turns out this is not a common problem, but is possible with nylock nuts. He says its possible to pull a thread or two while tightening (although you'll probably here and/or feel a pop). All it takes is another 1/2 turn or so in either direction and the threads will cross and become fouled all by themselves, the threads being bound in the nut can't bite the threads on the bolt... The dremel's getting busted out when I get home... I hope the bolt isn't on backorder, or maybe I'll rig something up from the parts store - I just can't see cutting the nut off without damaging the bolt..
 
#25 ·
Well, after 10 minutes with the dremel that nut is off. I'm assuming I pulled a thread or two and crossed it from there. Anyway, $1.50 at the hardware store later these are the results [/emoticons/emotion-1.gif]



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I learned two important lessons from this fiasco. Don't be in a hurry to put things together, and the dremel is the greatest tool invented... Thanks for everyone's input, now I got ridin' to do [/emoticons/emotion-2.gif][/emoticons/emotion-2.gif][/emoticons/emotion-2.gif][/emoticons/emotion-2.gif]