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Front cylinder is dead. Have changed plugs, appear to be getting good spark. Ran the diagnostic check on both injectors and one clicks 5 times (which I assume is normal) and the other one doesn't click at all. You hear it turn on but no clicking. I really dont think I'm getting fuel to the bad cylinder. I can smell gas in the cylinder that is firing, but noting in the dead cylinder. Can the injector be repaired or does it have to be replaced? I've read numerous posts, but haven't found too much on fuel injectors. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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if its just clogged and not completely dead you can check out this site. They test and completely clean your injectors for only $18 per injector. The guys on another car forum swear this guy is the best. Many of them claim better throttle response, better performance AND better gas mileage. I myself have never tried them due to not having a spare set of injectors and cannot be down without a car for an extended period of time.


http://www.witchhunter.com/injectorserv1.php4


From the site:
A 9 volt battery can be used to check for stuck injectors, listen for a click. Don't use the car's battery for testing, it can overheat the injector coil, (especially low impedance injectors). Just because an injector "clicks", it doesn't mean that it flows correctly, it just indicates it's not stuck.
If injectors are stuck after sitting for a short time, sometimes a "tap" with a small hammer on the metal body can free it. Don't break anything... I said "tap". If that doesn't work, send them to us.
 

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you can ohm test the injector and see if the windings inside are bad or if it's just stuck.


if you have continuity the injector is probably ok but stuck(unless you have real high resistance), if you have no continuity the injector is fubar, get a new one.


if it's stuck take it to a injector place and they can clean and flow test it for you or u can soak it in some power tune(mercury marine's works great) and then blow it out w/shopair as you open and close it with a 9V battery,but of course sending it out is much better and safer.





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Front cylinder is dead. Have changed plugs, appear to be getting good spark. Ran the diagnostic check on both injectors and one clicks 5 times (which I assume is normal) and the other one doesn't click at all. You hear it turn on but no clicking. I really dont think I'm getting fuel to the bad cylinder. I can smell gas in the cylinder that is firing, but noting in the dead cylinder. Can the injector be repaired or does it have to be replaced? I've read numerous posts, but haven't found too much on fuel injectors. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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I'll check it out. Next question, how do I get them out if I do send them off to be cleaned? Do I have to remove the throttle body? I'm going to give it a tap and see if that makes any difference. Is the clicking the sound of the injector actually opening and closing?
 

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Any idea what resistance a good injector should read? I'm sure its in the repair manual somewhere, just to lazy to look it up. Thanks.
 

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yeah the clicking is the opening and closing of the injector.


as far as the resistance goes i'm not exactly sure but i am guessing around 0.4 - 1.0 ohm or so.


should have very little resistance.


hope this helps
 

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Read your service manual, there's other info in the Fuel Injection section you will want to know.


Also look in the table of contents for the troubleshooting section, it'll help you seethe symptoms.


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Any idea what resistance a good injector should read? I'm sure its in the repair manual somewhere, just to lazy to look it up. Thanks.
 

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Thanks. I just swapped them around this evening. Havent completed putting it all back together, but I should finish that tomorrow. Measured the resistance of each injector when I had them out. I believe they were both around 15 ohms. Ran the diagnostic again on each injector and again only one is clicking. A lot of work just to prove out that an injector is bad, but hopefully tomorrow when I finish putting it all back together I'll have a definite answer as to what my problem is. I'll post my results.
 

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if one injector is clicking and the other injector doesn't click on the SAME wires , then the injector is bad or stuck for sure.


in other words hook the injectors to the same connectors and try it then hook it to the sec. connector and try it to make sure it is not the wiring harness.


i would've thought they'd have less resistance but since they both have the same resistance i 'd say that should be ok so i am wondering if it is stuck.


has the bike been sitting for awhile?
 

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I believe it has been. I just bought is a couple of months ago. The guy who sold it to me said he really didn't ride it much lately. If ran fine since I've owned it until just this past weekend.
 

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just wondering if maybe the fuel went bad and varnished up the injector but you have been using it and it has run fine for a little bit so that's probably not it.
 

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BoilerDeez said:
Front cylinder is dead. Have changed plugs, appear to be getting good spark. Ran the diagnostic check on both injectors and one clicks 5 times (which I assume is normal) and the other one doesn't click at all. You hear it turn on but no clicking. I really dont think I'm getting fuel to the bad cylinder. I can smell gas in the cylinder that is firing, but noting in the dead cylinder. Can the injector be repaired or does it have to be replaced? I've read numerous posts, but haven't found too much on fuel injectors. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I don't know if you solved your problem yet and i'm guilty of not reading the current replies and lack of motivation
.... If it was my bike i would swap out/switch injectors out of the gate if they ohmed out properly.


Joe aka Megawattprovided some good information not that long ago regarding injectors:


http://rswarrior.com/forums/p/108282/897500.aspx#897500


http://rswarrior.com/forums/p/108666/899802.aspx#899802


Hope this info helps and GOOD LUCK
 

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Alright, just got it figured out. Dang Power Commander! I swapped the injectors and ran the diagnostic test and the same thing happend. Back one worked, front one didn't. Unplugged power commander and hooked up normally and tada, ran perfect. Holy heck did I go through a lot of unnecessary work to figure that one out. Oh well, I know much more about this bike now than I ever wanted to. Thanks all for the helpful tips and information. This site is one big reason I got a warrior in the first place.

Now I have to figure out what is wrong with this power commander. Either that or just buy a new one. I have vance and hines bigshots on the bike. I can't run those without a power commander can I? I have the stock pipe and will throw that on until I figure out what to do with my PCIII situation.
 

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I have vance and hines bigshots on the bike. I can't run those without a power commander can I? I have the stock pipe and will throw that on until I figure out what to do with my PCIII situation.
That's a fable andyou are misinformed. I have the V&H Big Shotsand alsoChurchkey's V-bak for the last 35M miles w/o a problem



There are many members running w/o a FI enhancingmodule



AlanH said:
Here's a set of NGK Iridium plugs that i put on @ 10,284 miles 6-10-05 while living in MI. Shortly there after i installed Churchey's VBAK to compliment the V&H Big Shots that were installed at 800 miles. I subsequently bumped-up my CO settings in the ECU for both changes and still run w/o a PCIII!

I replaced those plugs yesterday @ 28,728 miles 8-17-07 figuring it must be time even though they looked good @ 22,539 miles when i inspected the left plugs.

That's 18,444 serious hard miles later and they look like near new plugs. They out lasted my CPS [:0] [
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