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I looked for a while at this bike and pictured myself driving one day a machine like that. I simply cannot digest it. I'm more of rider with a little performance edge... stretching my legs out on forward controls and riding the highway forever. I understand that the VMax is designed for power and rocket speeds, but still. This bike is simply not appealing to me, from any angle I look at it.


There are many rider choices out there... but to me, the Warrior is the ultimate machine. I searched a lot before I purchased my 2003 machine and the more I look at other bikes, the happier I am with my purchase. Customizable to the bone, very mean and lean driving wise, simple mechanics that can be done by yourself... and so on. I looked at the VMax engine and got turned off how many little pipes you see there... There is something definitely missing from the hole design. It does not flow at all like the Warrior. If I look only at the legs position... is just a BIG turnoff, I will never be able to move the controls forward and "relax" while riding:



I'm not after performance. But even if I would be, the look will count a lot to me also. Let me know your thoughts...
 

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I'm not very fond of the exhaust note myself. Sounds kinda whiney. That duck billed fender isn't appealing either. I'm like you, I enjoy nice highway power with the comfort of stretching out for a few hundred miles at a time. On November 1st I put 463 miles on my bike in one day and another 300 the next day. No way I could do that on the new Max. Now, put that motor in a Warrior and it's a whole new ball game and my mind would be changed quickly!
 

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I have not personally seen the new Vmax but owned a 2001 for 5 years and loved it.

I bought the Warrior because I wanted something different but I miss the Max...

Personally I prefer the riding position of the MAx and other naked bikes. Not the sport bike but the normal naked bike position over the stretched out legs anytime. I wish there was a kit to move the pegs back,

Another thing that I don't really care for on the Warrior is the air cooled and push rod engine but I love the Warrior's looks and customization range...

In short ... I like the Warrior a lot, but don't love it (yet) like I did my Vmax.

My 2 Cents
 

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07midnite said:
I'm like you, I enjoy nice highway power with the comfort of
stretching out for a few hundred miles at a time. On November 1st I put
463 miles on my bike in one day and another 300 the next day. No way I
could do that on the new Max. Now, put that motor in a Warrior and it's
a whole new ball game and my mind would be changed quickly!
I agree. Even with my "stock" bike (PR BAK related to performance), I have to hang on to dear life when I do a half open throttle... the bike is like a bullet.The thrill of performance is there for me, every time. If I want more, I can add a big bore for another grand and move to 110. But why should I do this, honestly?
 

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I would like to see one with different scoops up front, better looking pipes, and a rear fender with out that flipped up tail. It has a lot of potential to look much better. Guy would not need to spend much on performace mods so can focus on the looks.
 

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I'm sure there will be a ton of accessories and possible mods for the
new Max such like scoops, exhausts and everything else pretty soon...
as there was for the old one... specially in Europe.

Put an aftermarket exhaust on it and it will sound like a small block just like the old one did... Most bikes sound whimpy with stock exhausts anyway due to regulations..
 

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I have not personally seen the new Vmax but owned a 2001 for 5 years and loved it.

I bought the Warrior because I wanted something different but I miss the Max...

Personally
I prefer the riding position of the MAx and other naked bikes. Not the
sport bike but the normal naked bike position over the stretched out
legs anytime. I wish there was a kit to move the pegs back,

Another
thing that I don't really care for on the Warrior is the air cooled and
push rod engine but I love the Warrior's looks and customization
range...

In short ... I like the Warrior a lot, but don't love it (yet) like I did my Vmax.

My 2 Cents
Guido, is a matter of preference. As you said before, you like better the classy leg position and everyone is entitled to their own choice, when it comes to bikes... I respect your opinion. I look at the VMax and then I flip back and look to a machine like that (check how elegant is the bike... it mates with the rider to form the perfect pair, on a priceless spring ride):




You cannot do better then that... with a VMax, IMO.
 

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I like the option to have both... like I had on my Max.

For agressive and and riding through the twisters I prefer pegs back... no hammering on the spine and easier to move around te seat in my opinion...
 

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I must agree with you. The technology and power are outstanding, but I really do not like these.... "pipes" - I can't call them pipes, they look... I don't know.... out of place or smth... Also the "robotic" design is what I don't like as well. Those angular forms are not my cup of tea.

I would like it to be more "stretched" and streamlined or inswept. Too many separate details are hanging and projecting everywhere.

I will take a good look at it at the dealer anyway. They must have it soon
 

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Would U ride a Toilet if it ran say 7 flat @ 200 MPH in the 1/4 ? Back in the day, I had a RD 400 with all the tuner parts on it,DG heads and expansion chambers ect. Sold it after about 4 months before it could hurt me. Just to damm fast! At least faster than I had talent for.
 

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Being a member of vmax.com and vmaxchat.com I was asked by Yamaha for input as to how I would like the new v-max to be designed. As I don't like to admit my age I was taken with the max back in 1985 and promised I'd get one someday. I finally did in 1990 a 1988 complete with Dynojet stage 7. I loved this bike and through my connections abroad I purchased 17"R1 and Diversion rims and fitted them with Battleaxes, Modded the wheels for R1 four piston calipers and R1 rotors. I then addedforward controls from Italy, open see throughclutch case cover and lots of chrome. I loved this bike and can't believe that Yamaha would transform the Max into a kids bike which most of us can't even ride. Yamaha what have you done.
 

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I love it, I want have the 09 but I can see my self on one in the near future.I was looking at some pictures of my old max and I wish I still had it.
 

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The VMAX is definately not for everyone. I'm a bike nut and the more I looked at it and the more I learned about it.I was sold. The thing is bad quick in stock form. And there is alot of tech that went into the new design. I will put braided lines on to replace some of the rubber hoses and tubes for a better look. After it gets a little work over I'll get the look I want..


...Naked hooligan bad ass.


It aint nothin like the old Max when it comes to handling, braking and even power. I personally never likedthe first gen max because I need a bike that handles.


The price is higher than most in the category but the VMAX has anti lock brakes, a slipper clutch ,Brembo master cyls.,wave rotors and a fantastic suspension.Plus the fit and finish is top rate.Oh andit's got 197 hp from the factory. All that in a very comfortable riding position.


Yamaha will offer a 240 rim and every carbon fiber body part is already available. And A race ECU is in the catalog. thats also on my list.


I'll put on a full ti ex. when one is available. Aprovic will probably make something for it soon. I can't get past the stock ex on the Max just like the Warrior ex......ICK!


Like they say at Star ---We build it YOU make it your own.


I will do alot of mods to my new VMAX as soon as it gets here. NOS is already planned.


If anyone wants to check it out in better detail and hear what people that have received thiers have to say about the new VMAX check out FX's site. www.starvmax.com. Lots of good stuff.
 

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The VMAX is definately not for everyone. I'm a bike nut and the more I looked at it and the more I learned about it.I was sold. The thing is bad quick in stock form. And there is alot of tech that went into the new design. I will put braided lines on to replace some of the rubber hoses and tubes for a better look. After it gets a little work over I'll get the look I want..


...Naked hooligan bad ass.


It aint nothin like the old Max when it comes to handling, braking and even power. I personally never likedthe first gen max because I need a bike that handles.


The price is higher than most in the category but the VMAX has anti lock brakes, a slipper clutch ,Brembo master cyls.,wave rotors and a fantastic suspension.Plus the fit and finish is top rate.Oh andit's got 197 hp from the factory. All that in a very comfortable riding position.


Yamaha will offer a 240 rim and every carbon fiber body part is already available. And A race ECU is in the catalog. thats also on my list.


I'll put on a full ti ex. when one is available. Aprovic will probably make something for it soon. I can't get past the stock ex on the Max just like the Warrior ex......ICK!


Like they say at Star ---We build it YOU make it your own.


I will do alot of mods to my new VMAX as soon as it gets here. NOS is already planned.


If anyone wants to check it out in better detail and hear what people that have received thiers have to say about the new VMAX check out FX's site. www.starvmax.com. Lots of good stuff.





I forgot I don't have to buy one my little brother Cruise has one. I'll just beat him up and ride his.
 

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CruiseMissile said:
The VMAX is definately not for everyone. I'm a bike nut and the more I looked at it and the more I learned about it.I was sold. The thing is bad quick in stock form. And there is alot of tech that went into the new design. I will put braided lines on to replace some of the rubber hoses and tubes for a better look. After it gets a little work over I'll get the look I want..


...Naked hooligan bad ass.


It aint nothin like the old Max when it comes to handling, braking and even power. I personally never likedthe first gen max because I need a bike that handles.


The price is higher than most in the category but the VMAX has anti lock brakes, a slipper clutch ,Brembo master cyls.,wave rotors and a fantastic suspension.Plus the fit and finish is top rate.Oh andit's got 197 hp from the factory. All that in a very comfortable riding position.


Yamaha will offer a 240 rim and every carbon fiber body part is already available. And A race ECU is in the catalog. thats also on my list.


I'll put on a full ti ex. when one is available. Aprovic will probably make something for it soon. I can't get past the stock ex on the Max just like the Warrior ex......ICK!


Like they say at Star ---We build it YOU make it your own.


I will do alot of mods to my new VMAX as soon as it gets here. NOS is already planned.


If anyone wants to check it out in better detail and hear what people that have received thiers have to say about the new VMAX check out FX's site. www.starvmax.com. Lots of good stuff.





I forgot I don't have to buy one my little brother Cruise has one. I'll just beat him up and ride his.










You don't have to give me a woopin...I'll hand over the key.
 

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I hope nobody will interpret this post the wrong way, I do not mean disrespect to anyone. It reflects my personal observation, based on what I read and saw on this site and real life...


Randy, I'm not surprised that you went for the VMax. I saw you how you ride the Warrior and you are not the low ball type. The way I see it is that you traded the slim Warrior for a 197HP machine. You decided to go for a conventional look because the immense torque, so it explains the decision to sell your Warrior. Still, I,m curious what enhancements you will do to the bike. The Warrior has only a hand full of mods, far from the word A LOT, so I imagine the VMax will take a while until it will have the aftermarket behind to change it to look better. You still get to ride for a while that BMW position that I find so uncomfortable...


Jeff Palhegyi customized the VMax. Basically he took the stock bike and added custom wheels (the VMax can take an optional 240 tire, no swingarm mod there), exhaust covers, cam covers, pivot cover and a fender eliminator. He also removed the passenger seat. That's all I saw, the rest was stock. Forgive me if I say this but to myself, a fully custom bike is something you look at and cannot recognize it, compared to original. Front, sides... etc.

Quoted from Star VMax post:

Here we are wondering around, Sunday night, as part of the media pre-view and get to see everything Yamaha has to offer in one of the huge halls of the Mirage Resort and Casino in Las Vegas.
Here a VMax there a VMax, kind of cool how may they have on the showroom floor.
But wait a minute, whats that?
A fully custom 2009 VMax!! And who stands next to it? Jeff Palhegyi himself, checking out his latest creation. After a few words of admiration I wall pulled into the lines and custom touches of the bike.
Oliver, you are a true passionate rider and devoted mechanic... look how custom is your Warrior. How can you say that a VMax like that is fully custom? This is not you at all, I'm pretty sure is now you who wrote that article. Jeff Palhegyi was contracted by Yamaha to remake several show-off bikes. IMO, there are many fellow Warriors who customized better their bikes and spent years of work to make their machine a dream one. That is true passion for a bike you care for. Oliver... if you have time, please post a reply.


People who buy a VMax purchase it mostly for the power it has, the looks come second... because they think eventually they will customize it.
For myself, the looks are equally or even more important, compared to power and (as I said before) for my personal taste... the Warrior is truly the ultimate riding machine. There are better engineered bikes out there for sure. Yet, the Warrior knows how to impress me and many of the people who pass by... every time.
 

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Hey it doesn't hurt my feelings if someone don't like the new Max. There was only 2500 to go aroundfor 09 anyway.I can't think of anything in life that everyone can agree on. I didn't like it much at first but it grew on me. Not like the Warrior at all. It was instant love with the big Vtwin.Idig the feelingI get when I'm on it. Plus this site is an added Warrior bonus.


I really really don't want to sell my Warrior. I like having several different bikes to ride. I already have a wicked R1 for ripping on. The Fz1 for everyday riding. And the Warrior to putt around on.The VMAX for me will be a project that I hope to afford to do right.


I'm sure that if Jeff would have had more time he would have come up with something even better.He was really rushed.


In time there will be some wild next gen max's just as there are some very custom first gens.


They are just now getting into the new owners hands.
 
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