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Hi there! I ask everyone who is in the subject to help with information. Of particular interest are the opinions of those who use it.

In the air suspension kit I bought, there is no Y-splitter. The seller claims that he has it and he will look for it. I have searched the net and there is very little information about TAR. There are no diagrams or clear descriptions. Most of the reviews about the installation process are old threds and often refer to the first TAR version.

Accordingly, I have several questions.

The first question is - how are the versions different? I'm assuming it's in built splitter into the compressor. In what I have, the compressor has two outputs - 4 on my scheme. Does this mean that I have the second version of TAR?

The second question - do I understand correctly that the port behind the filter, which I indicated on the diagram as number 5, is the input from outside to the compressor air in order to supply it under pressure to outputs 4?

Third question. I drew a simple circuit for connecting a pneumatic line. Air is taken through port number 5 in the diagram, and is supplied through the ports simultaneously to the solenoid valve and to the cylinder of the shock absorber. Through port 3, the solenoid valve relieves pressure when its power supply is activated. Through port 1, pressure enters the cylinder, and through port 2, the cylinder bleeds (or vice versa) pressure on the back of the rod. Is the schema correct? If it correct, I do not see the need for a Y-splitter.



And the last fourth question. After looking at the installation reviews, I see that port 2 on the cylinder should also work for bleeding condensate that has entered the cylinder along with the air pumped in from outside. Thus, in the maximum position of the extended rod, the pressure in the cylinder is released, which protects it from overpressure and rupture. Also, in this position, systed removing the condensate liquid. If everything is so, then I think that for winter storage I will need to pump the cylinder as much as possible in order to squeeze out the condensate liquid. And then how to leave it? Completely relieve pressure and repeat pumping in the spring, or vice versa, pump up to the limit and leave? And is it necessary to be tied to time at all, to downtime without movement? Mayby the system automatically get rid of water when it pressured up to high limit? I saw some systems have special liquid traps. But how it in TAR?
 

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Hi there! I ask everyone who is in the subject to help with information. Of particular interest are the opinions of those who use it.
In the air suspension kit I bought, there is no Y-splitter. The seller claims that he has it and he will look for it. I have searched the net and there is very little information about TAR. There are no diagrams or clear descriptions. Most of the reviews about the installation process are old threds and often refer to the first TAR version.

Accordingly, I have several questions.

The first question is - how are the versions different? I'm assuming it's in built splitter into the compressor. In what I have, the compressor has two outputs - 4 on my scheme. Does this mean that I have the second version of TAR?
  • I believe a later version has the normally closed solenoid bleed-off valve threaded to the compressor discharge port and perhaps the latest version is integral to the discharge port on the compressor. No splitter would be required unless there are 2 cylinders as used on some other motorcycles.
    • I suspect you can eliminate the 2 plastic tubing fittings and retrofit with a 1/8" npt nipple.
The second question - do I understand correctly that the port behind the filter, which I indicated on the diagram as number 5, is the input from outside to the compressor air in order to supply it under pressure to outputs 4?
  • #5 is the compressor intake port (atmospheric air) and the reason for the filter.
Third question. I drew a simple circuit for connecting a pneumatic line. Air is taken through port number 5 in the diagram, and is supplied through the ports simultaneously to the solenoid valve and to the cylinder of the shock absorber. Through port 3, the solenoid valve relieves pressure when its power supply is activated. Through port 1, pressure enters the cylinder, and through port 2, the cylinder bleeds (or vice versa) pressure on the back of the rod. Is the schema correct? If it correct, I do not see the need for a Y-splitter.
  • You are Correct. Your system doesn't require a Y-splitter!
  • Port #2 is open to atmosphere. The TAR pneumatic cylinder is a double acting cylinder but in this application it is being used as a single acting cylinder and the reason it uses a sintered bronze breather vent.
And the last fourth question. After looking at the installation reviews, I see that port 2 on the cylinder should also work for bleeding condensate that has entered the cylinder along with the air pumped in from outside. Thus, in the maximum position of the extended rod, the pressure in the cylinder is released, which protects it from overpressure and rupture. Also, in this position, systed removing the condensate liquid. If everything is so, then I think that for winter storage I will need to pump the cylinder as much as possible in order to squeeze out the condensate liquid. And then how to leave it? Completely relieve pressure and repeat pumping in the spring, or vice versa, pump up to the limit and leave? And is it necessary to be tied to time at all, to downtime without movement? Mayby the system automatically get rid of water when it pressured up to high limit? I saw some systems have special liquid traps. But how it in TAR?
  • Condensation in a pneumatic system is generated on the side that uses the compressed air based on relative humidity and atmospheres being produced @ the compressor.
  • I would store the bike with the TAR cylinder collapsed (the lowest position)
  • When storing the bike, during the winter months, I would mist the internal parts with a light non-detergent compressor oil or equivalent to prevent corrosion and deterioration of the seals and metal parts. I believe the cylinder body is stainless steel.
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I don't have TAR on my Warrior ride but am quite conversant with the electrical & pneumatic components!


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I don't have TAR on my Warrior ride but am quite conversant with the electrical & pneumatic components!
Yes, Alanh, thank you, this topic is in my bookmarks. I already ordered a waterproof connector and bought an electrical fuse. I think I understood the diagram correctly. But the process of getting rid of condensate is still in question.
 

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I've had a TAR for a number of years now and can say that condensation has never been a issue. Where these systems run high pressure the actual volume of air isn't that great to build up condensation. I've never noticed water when depressurizing the system.

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And the valve in the system is located at the bottom of the horizontally mounted cylinder - smartly manufacted! Thanks for the info. Now I will install it with no problems(y)
 
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