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Turn Signal/LED and Resistors... PLEASE HELP

984 views 8 replies 4 participants last post by  jspencer  
#1 ·
Ok here's where I am...
Based on a previous mod by RoadWarrior and GeekStar I'm doing the hidden yellow LED mod in the taillight housing.

I've completed everything except wiring it up (Also I took several pics along the way of doing it in the plastic separator vice the metal backing as I beleive RoadWarrior did). I tested the LED connections with 2 "C" batteries and they shine wonderfully. They are the yellow leds from superbrightleds.com with the 30 degree angle. The problem comes when I try to connect a resistor. Doing the math (on the resistor calc online) I punched in 14 for supply, 2.4 for LED voltage, and 240 mA for the 12 LEDs. That said I should get a ~48 Ohm resistor. I went to Radio Shack and they had 47 Ohm, 1/2 Watt resistors, with 5% tolerance. When I connect everything up with those resistors in serial on the positive line in to the blinker nothing happens for the blinkers. I have doubled checked all connections to be correct so I beleive its the resistor. What did I do wrong? Remember the LEDs are working after a test with C batteries.

Please help.
 
#2 ·
Sounds like you did the math correctly, the resistor will step down the voltage from 12 to 2.4. Put a voltmeter on the blinker lead and then on the taillight side of the resistor, make sure one side is around 12 and the other side is around 2.4. The 1/2 watt resistor should work fine for testing but you will need to get at least a ceramic 2 watt so it doesn't melt when the blinker stays on for a while.
 
#4 ·
Ok here's what I know and what happens when tested.
RRear + = Dark Green
RRear - = Black
LRear + = Brown
LRear - = Black

For voltage testing with the taillight section completely removed I put the positive test lead on the dark green (RR) wire and the negative test lead on the black wire. When testing DC volts the voltmeter (a high-end digital type) incrementally rises per click of the blinker to a peak of 10.8 volts with the bike not running. When I start the bike the same test still reacts the same, incrementally rising per click, but the peak is now ~12.7 volts.

In attempting to test the resistor I placed the resistor inline (serial) with the dark green wire (RR+) and connect the positive test lead to the end of the resistor, so to test the voltage after the resistor. I again connect the negative test lead to the black wire and being testing. I recieve the EXACT same results. The voltmeter incrementally rises per blinker click to 10.8 with bike not started and 12.7 with it started.

So questions:
1) Why does the voltmeter show 10.8 and everyone elses shows 5 when not started?
2) Why does it incrementally rise per click versus just do on and off voltage. Is this because the voltmeter doesn't supply a load?
3) How come the resistor does change the peak voltage on the volt meter but when I connect the original blinker th eline doesn't have enough juice to light it anymore?

This shouldn't be this complicated it should be quite simple but it for some reason isn't in my case. please help.
 
#6 ·
Ok... update... Ladies and Gentleman I am an idiot.
While I would like to be able to say my resistors were not packaged right they were I bought the wrong ones. I bought 47k Ohm resistors versus 47 Ohm resisters. Nice huh? It sould work fine now once I get a chance to install.

However I would still like to know why I get a peak voltage of 10.8 versus everyone elses 5 with the engine not on. O-well I will update if it works and post the ten pics on how to do the mod shortly there after.

Bigdaddy.