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#1 ·
What if we stay out of 4th gear as much as possible while riding? Could this recall thing still actually happen to someone? As I rode for the first time today in a long time, everytime I was in 4th, I got thinking about this stupid recall and I shifted out of 4th. What is everyones opinion on that?
 
#2 ·
Actual gear position is mostly irrelevent, from a quick glance at the service manual, any time the drive pinion is turning (any time you're moving) the affected circlip is in motion. Which in itself is mostly irrelevent, who knows if it has to be moving or simply vibrating to fail? Worry is sometimes good, sometimes bad, it is up to you, the rider to decide. I remember myself posting about having the same brand of tire front to rear in a way past post, I believe it was something like "When im on the ragged edge of a way too fast turn, I dont want the cost of a front tire to be the deciding factor between me bleeding and powering out of the turn with as much throttle as my happy ass can stand". The point being, if that voice inside your head cant stop thinking about the trans, perhaps its time to call em , make the appointment and stop worrying. We all have to make the same decision, you are not alone.
 
#3 ·
Elvis, I hear what your saying and I have already been to my dealer regarding the recall, but he is not making a list up on who goes first and he is not taking in anyones bikes due to lack of room. I have the love of riding too much to see my bike just sitting in my garage on a nice day. Anyday something can happen to you whether it be walking accross the street or just standing in a park, so I have made the decision to ride and to be free. Like I had said in my post though, I was just wondering the technical part if not being in 4th actually lowered the risks or not? I will continue to ride until my dealer notifies me to bring the bike in. He informed me that it should be before June so I would be fine to make the long trip to Americade. What was your outcome with your tire issue though, I'm curious?
 
#4 ·
quote:Originally posted by vector18

Elvis, I hear what your saying and I have already been to my dealer regarding the recall, but he is not making a list up on who goes first and he is not taking in anyones bikes due to lack of room. I have the love of riding too much to see my bike just sitting in my garage on a nice day. Anyday something can happen to you whether it be walking accross the street or just standing in a park, so I have made the decision to ride and to be free. Like I had said in my post though, I was just wondering the technical part if not being in 4th actually lowered the risks or not? I will continue to ride until my dealer notifies me to bring the bike in. He informed me that it should be before June so I would be fine to make the long trip to Americade. What was your outcome with your tire issue though, I'm curious?
Im with ya on the riding thing bro, I thought I answered the technical thing as well. The tire thing, I went with the same brand front to rear to be safe(Metzeler). Kind of ironic isnt it? Ill ride with a recalled tranny, but not mismatched tires. Oh well, my mother always said I was special, Im gonna have to ask her what she meant by that.[/emoticons/emotion-2.gif]
 
#8 ·
Personally, I'm kinda tired of hearing about all of the recall stuff. I'm riding mine till A) the tranny grenades, or B) I get a call saying my parts are in for the recall service. I figure as many miles as I have and the way I have ridden at times that it should have already failed. IF it does fail, I just hope I'm not dragging knee through a sweet sweeper. If you didn't know about the recall, would you still be riding as usual? It all basically comes down to what your conscience lets you get away with. I understand the concern but I'm sure there are worse obstacles that we have dealt with while on the road. If you feel froggy and don't mind wasting a tire, while cruising around freeway speeds, jam on the rear brake and see how it feels to skid to a stop. I've had to do it a few times in emergency situations before and all mine does is a gentle side to side sway. Basically it comes down to whether or not you are comfortable with the fact that something MIGHT happen, it's not written in stone that it will. Just my .02
 
#9 ·
Just be careful if you choose to ride, after you've been told in writing "You should not ride your motorcycle until this modification is performed." If you bring your bike in with a fried tranny, they may have you on this "technicality" and say, "the estimated cost to replace this is $_______. Sorry, we told you not to ride it." Just my thought on the matter - Jim
 
#10 ·
quote:Originally posted by JimB

Just be careful if you choose to ride, after you've been told in writing "You should not ride your motorcycle until this modification is performed." If you bring your bike in with a fried tranny, they may have you on this "technicality" and say, "the estimated cost to replace this is $_______. Sorry, we told you not to ride it." Just my thought on the matter - Jim
Couple issues with that. First off, that would play IF Yamaha has delivered the notifications via certified mail. But they didn't. Secondly, think about all of the used Roadie and Warrior owners out there for which the original owner of record has moved, died, been incarcerated or simply will just not bother telling Yamaha who they sold the bike to. All those people will NOT get anything "in writing" from Yamaha at all.
 
#11 ·
Ok Jim, how would that work, I still haven't been notified by yamaha. If it weren't for this board I wouldn't know anything about a recall. My dealer never sent me sh*. Has anyone gotten a letter from Yamaha? We should have been informed right away without delay. This is the biggest problem, because there are many people out there riding roadstars and have no idea. They have the right to decide to park it, and just haven't been told. Shame on yamaha for not even telling us.
 
#13 ·
i wouldnt worry about yamaha telling you not to ride. it would be different if they offered you an 04 for a loaner. or if the parts were accually available. im riding mine. ive had plans to goto fl, for 6 months, they gona reimburse me for lost vacation, because i cant ride? i dont think so! my service manager says he should have the parts in time to get mine done before daytona, im not holding my breath. parts or not, im riding!! i dint pay 10,000 to look at a warrior.
 
#14 ·
Then you have folks like me who's original dealer never registered the Warrior I bought with Yamaha, thus Yamaha thinking that my Warrior is still sitting on the floor waiting to be sold. Do you think I will be getting a recall letter. I never got one for the Gas Tank Recall. I doubt I will get one for the Tranny. I have moved twice since I purchased my Warrior. So, I doubt Yamaha would be able to find me if they knew I owned a Warrior.
 
#15 ·
I'm with Dark on this one, I have gotten nothing from the dealer or YAMAHA on any recalls. If I was not a member here I still wouldn't know, Therefore If I get killed riding My wife would probably get a check. They say they are on top of it, doesn't seem it.

They are not giving any mileage range for the breakage. So, I'm guessing if some guys here have 15K+ and it hasn't gone bad then those of us with a couple thousand miles are probably safe. NO, there are no guarantees. I'm more concerned that the nut holding the front pulley on is more of an issue than the tranny clip. At least that's what I get after being on here for a year or so.

Ride it, fix it when the parts come in. Don't get so fixated on staying out of fourth that a truck or SUV gets to run you down instead.

Just my thoughts.
 
#16 ·
What yamaha should do is a search of registered warriors and roadstars. Check each and every state for every current motorcycle registration and send recalls out this way. If a bike is registered, the DMV should have your current address, or recent enough to have your mail forwarded. Just my opinion, but it would work better for bikes that are resold.
 
#17 ·
Like I said guys, just my .02 cents worth of an opinion on the matter. I too am totally pissed off with the way they're dealing with this. I find it hard to believe that there's difficulty producing 7,000 kits in Japan for RSW's. The 30,000 for the Roadstars - well, that's a different story. I lived in Japan from 1995-97 and I know for a fact those people have a serious work ethic. So much, in fact, many drop dead on the sidewalk walking hoome after a typical 14-hour work day. You'd think they could crank out 7,000 kits in less than a month, so something else is "up." I think "training" is an issue, and there lies the backlog. Someone has to train these service folks how to do this - I don't think they're going to tear a motor and tranny out of a bike without some degree of training, armed only with a 15-page "how-to" in the form of a "Safety Recall." Once this is accomplished, I think the pace of repair/turnaround will be picked-up. Training, or the current lack of, I believe, is the real issue here. - Jim
 
#20 ·
One other thing that's curious - GM sends out a Press Release - never saw one from Yamaha. Sssssssssssssssssssssh. Someone's trying to keep this quiet, me thinks.

GM Recalls 1.8 Million Cars for Ignitions
Updated: Friday, Feb. 6, 2004 - 11:00 AM

DETROIT (AP) - General Motors Corp. said Friday it is recalling 1.8 million cars to repair potential problems with the ignition switch that may cause a fire.

The models involved are certain 1998-2001 Chevrolet Cavaliers and Pontiac Sunfires built between March 1997 and April 2001. In addition, some 1998 Pontiac Grand Am, Oldsmobile Achieva, and Buick Skylark cars built between March 1997 and January 1998 are being recalled.

Of the total, 1.4 million of the vehicles are in the United States and 337,000 are in Canada. The remaining vehicles are outside these countries.
 
#22 ·
You're probably right ridingrules. If they don't have access to DMV records, somehow all maufactures should be allowed to get this info only for safety recalls. I'm very glad for RSWarrior.com or there is no way in **** many of us would've found out. Someone could get hurt from Yamaha's negligence. I'm all for what JimB says PRESS RELEASE! They don't want to hurt the sales though.
 
#23 ·
All of you have just said it an I'll repeat it. I never got no stinkin letter from Yami and the tranny recal nor did I get one about the gas tank issue. I bought mine used and I am still not sure if the gas tank was ever done. I will continue to ride (as soon as it warms up here in VA) and if something happens, Yami will pay me. I think from a legal stand point they need to send you something official stating that your bike with vin number so and so is under recall. I have bought used cars and gotten the recall letters so what's Yami's problem.
Like JimB said, with Japan's work ethic we should have the **** parts already.
 
#24 ·
If there was a new accessory where Yami was looking to make a sick profit on it, I am sure they would go into overdrive with production. I think it is bull that we have to wait so long for our parts. I remember when I used to have a Mustang GT, Ford sent me a recall notice about the exhaust system and they said just bring it in whenever I can and it would be taken care of. The dealers were not saying that they had to wait for parts. I never got it done cause I had aftermarket exhaust with flowmasters installed already, but if I had the stock exhaust, it would have been taken care of. Now, if Ford can send out notices regarding an exhaust system, why can't Yami send out asap recall notices regarding a life or death situation? I can't say I will never buy Yami because of this cause I have a feeling if other bike manufacturers had the same issue, they would be doing the same thing to us. There is nothing we can do, but to wait it out or keep riding like usual.
 
#25 ·
I still have not gotten anything in the mail from Yamaha about this recall. If this thing is such a big deal then why don't they put something ont their website to let people know? I am really disapointed with Yamaha. One of the reasons that I bought this bike was Yamaha's reputation for high quality stuff. I would hope that they would be stepping up and handling this in an appropriate manner. It sure wnet quick when it a little fuel llne issue and did not cost them much.
 
#26 ·
Living in Wisconsin, I have probably another month before I can think of riding and will ride if the weather is here and the recall is done or not, I have ridden 14,000 miles with a POSSIBLE problem, I am not going to worry about a few hundred more, forwarned is for forarmed.