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#1 · (Edited)
OK, I'm inspired by a few recent topics to build my beast a little so at the same time I swap exhaust: http://www.rswarrior.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=58992 I'm going to VBak and Akitadog my top end.
Can anyone who has done this with their own two hands give me a technical step-by-step with what it takes?

Thanks.

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Advice:
Churchkey instructions. Redhorse's site.
Mark wires and take photos first. Write down notes.
You have to open up the wiring cover to pull back some of the wires so you have
enough slack to move stuff to the plate. Then tape everything back nicely.
 
#2 ·
I removed the "water heater" put on my own Monster pro pipe, PC-III "perfect" install, Akitadog plate, and DIY VBAK, inner fender mod. Get your hands on Redhouse's excellent instructions:
http://users.adelphia.net/~redhorse/
[I also put on braided stainless fuel lines and a stainless dry break, relocated fuel regulator]


Take your time, work carefully and be proud when it's done!
 
#3 ·
Hey ArizonaWarrior - I just looked at your bike and you've already done quite a few mods. It looks like you're real capable of something easy like a VBAK and coil/sensor relocate.

I'm guessing that my previous answer isn't what you're really looking for - but I'm still hoping Redhorse's site (and my suggestion) could be of some help. On the Akitadog plate, all I can recoomend is to label everything before unplugging and relocating: it makes it real easy to get it back together correctly the first time.

Good Luck!!!
 
#4 ·
Churchkey has instructions but I also referenced Redhorse's site. When you do the akitadog plate, just like WAR-E-R stated, you better mark the wires and take pictures or write down notes. You have to open up the wiring cover to pull back some of the wires so the you have enough slack to move stuff to the plate. then tape everything back nicely.
 
#7 ·
I guess I'll go with the louder pipes!

quote:Originally posted by Dyno0202

quote:Originally posted by ArizonaWarrior


OK. Are you getting any extra motor noise without the air box /slash/ silencer?




YES! ALOT more intake noise.
 
#8 ·
quote:Originally posted by ArizonaWarrior


OK. Are you getting any extra motor noise without the air box /slash/ silencer?



Yeah without the airbox you can really hear that sucker.[/emoticons/emotion-3.gif)]

On a more serious note the VBAK and Akitadog plate mods are not too hard. If you go with Churchkey's VBAK it comes with good instructions plus, as has been said already, refer to Redhorses website for additional info. Akitadog's coil relocation plates are superb. You will have to cut back some of the harness sleeving to bring one of the sensor cables out in a different place and extend or replace a rubber hose to one of the sensors.

Go for it.
 
#9 ·
+1 what everybody said. I used Redhorses instructions and varied a little according to my preference. Without the stock airbox, you will hear all sorts of strange and wonderful noises that were not apparent or even masked w/ the airbox.
Some call it gerbils or squeaking. Some have had backfires in the intake, others also hear a whistling/sucking. I would say though that the intake mod is one of those mods that make a noticeable difference in performance.
 
#11 ·
Okay. The Beast runs 5,000 rpm oem.
That's 2,500 intake strokes a minute.
Lets just call it 1700cc's for easy math and some pad.
That's 4,250,000 cc's of air each minute.
That's 259,250 cubic inches of air a minute.
Finally, that's 150 cubic feet of air a minute.
Woody's VBak K&N RC1290's aircraft 900cfm rating far exceed the need.
Woody's VBak will suck all the air the 1700cc's can swallow.
Is this math right?
Is the CFM rating of the K&N RC1290 right?
 
#12 ·
Selection of a filter size is determined by the needs of the particular engine it will be used on. In other words, just how much air is this puppy going to swallow? Then depending on the environment the machine is exposed to, how much more filter media does one need to compensate for dirt & dust depending on how often the end user wants to service the units.

I can tell you that the RC1290 is more than twice the filter size the Warrior needs per cylinder. In fact the ratio is 2.28 (rounded).


NOTE: We ar talking about a BAK here so when your figuring out the size requirement for the Warrior remember to use 51 as the engine cubic inch size since you will have one filter on each cylinder. If you have an air box configuration feeding both throttle bodies use the entire cubic inch size of the engine.

How to determine your filter requirements from the K&N web site.

Use the formula below to compute the minimum size filter required for your particular application. The usable portion of the filter is called the EFFECTIVE FILTERING AREA which is determined by multiplying the diameter of the filter times Pi (3.1416) times the height of the air filter in inches, then subtracting .75-inch. We subtract .75-inch to compensate for the rubber seals on each end of the element and the filter material near them since very little air flows through this area.

CID X RPM
A= _________

20,839


A = effective filtering area
CID = cubic inch displacement
RPM = revolutions per minute at maximum power

Example: A 350 CID Chevy engine with a horsepower peak at 5,500 rpm.

350 X 5500
A= ___________ = 92.4 sq in

20,839


If you are sizing a panel filter, multiply the width of the filter area (not the rubber seal) times its length. If you are sizing a round filter, use the following formula to determine the height of the filter.


A = effective filtering area
H = height
D = outside diameter of the filter
3.14 = pi
0.75 = the rubber end caps

Example:


Referencing the K&N catalog shows the proper filter for this application would be an E-1500 which is 3.5 inches tall. Keep in mind, this is the minimum size requirement. To extend the service interval and to provide an even greater volume of air to the engine, install the largest filter that will fit in the space allotted. If the space above the engine is restrictive, perhaps a remote filter arrangement could be used to gain space.

Off-road conditions require added filter area. A filter should be sized 1-1/2 to 2 times larger than normal for any conditions that could be considered severe. In this case, the E-1500 used in our example should be replaced by an E-1120 or an E-1150. For long distance off-road events, two double-size remote mounted filters would be best.



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#13 ·
Woody I agree 100% the math adds up and the included filters are providing greater mass air capacity than the engine can possibly pump. I'm 100% sold on your VBAK system from recommendations of other members and this just frosts the cake, so to speak. You'll have my order in a few days bro. Shine 'em up pretty for me!!