Kewl! A Dyno in a can!

I wonder how Big Shots would do...

 

Congrats on the gain
with the pipe, hopefully I'll get to test out your #'s first hand
one day! [/emoticons/emotion-5.gif]

 

Great numbers Ed! Looks like Craig did a jam up job. I will be getting the PCS Monster propipe in a few weeks and trying a couple of maps from the forum.

 

How about posting a pic of the dyno run on the rineys? Just curious about the power curve comparisons as well as the peak numbers....

 

Rinehart print out from a different Tuner.

 

I need to add that I converted my belt drive back to the stock sprocket, 1-1/8" with Gates Poly Kevlar and 32T front pulley.

 

Awesome numbers Ed.Gotta love the pro pipe.

 

Wow thats really impressive!

 

quote:Originally posted by DarkStar

I need to add that I converted my belt drive back to the stock sprocket, 1-1/8" with Gates Poly Kevlar and 32T front pulley.


Just curious as to why? And, can't wait to hear how that pipe sounds on our ride! I'm switching pipes, but not for HP. I'm going to Shorties for cornering. My JugHuggers look/sound great but have some weird bends in them.

 

More rotating mass equals less hp...it may not sound like much, but it does make a difference. After riding for close to two seasons with 1-1/2" belt drive and 31T front pulley and having problems of late with belt slipping over the 31T front pulley I decided to closely inspect all components involved, belt, pulley and rear sprocket. At first my thoughts were a bad front 31T front pulley, but after further inspection of all components the 1-1/2" Bulletpruf belt was wearing unevenly width wise. Inner Belt teeth were laying back and getting soft compared to outside belt teeth, so my personal conclusion is the Warrior is designed to run only 1-1/8" belt system and or a chain conversion due to distribution of power to the rear wheel. Any wider is only creating more useless rotating mass. The rotating mass is very noticeable when one turns the rear wheel by hand. Its difficult to turn by hand the 1-1/2" conversion, but to manually turn the stock 1-1/8" belt drive it turns very easily by hand. As for going back to the 32T is is more about drive-ability, not searching for a 6th gear than it is about off the line acceleration. I have plenty of power to the pavement with my engine modifications to worry about the difference between 31T vs. 32T


quote:Originally posted by TBSCO_MIDNIGHT

quote:Originally posted by DarkStar

I need to add that I converted my belt drive back to the stock sprocket, 1-1/8" with Gates Poly Kevlar and 32T front pulley.


Just curious as to why? And, can't wait to hear how that pipe sounds on our ride! I'm switching pipes, but not for HP. I'm going to Shorties for cornering. My JugHuggers look/sound great but have some weird bends in them.

 

quote:Originally posted by DarkStar

More rotating mass equals less hp...it may not sound like much, but it does make a difference.


So when is that 250 coming off for a 190?[/emoticons/emotion-5.gif] Just kidding buddy!

 

great #'s ed.[^] can't wait to get my rineys off and put my pro-pipe on 2 c, hear, & feel the difference....
question(s), r those sae #'s? and i notice that is dynostar not dynojet. dunno if there could b a difference or not between the 2.[?]
and those riney #'s r with the 240kit as well..??...
anyhoo, great job, and now u got me wanting to hurry up and get my pro-pipe on.....[/emoticons/emotion-4.gif][8D]well done ed, well done.
btw- i didn't need a pic of craig's butt...HA!!!!![/emoticons/emotion-5.gif][/emoticons/emotion-2.gif]
just tzn.[/emoticons/emotion-3.gif)]

 

Very nice numbers...congrats!! Has Craig ever run your bike on the dyno with the Rineharts?

 

Yes, it is SAE Corrected. Check Dyno Sheet, right column. Key element is finding yourself a great tuner who is going to tune your Warrior like it was his own. Not a tuner who gives you 2 hours and kicks you out the door. When I got my propipe. I installed and road around for 2-3 weeks prior to my tune. What I found out I was dumping a ton of fuel into my engine with the Rinehart Map. Custom Mapping is so important when changing exhaust systems. I can not stress enough the huge gains one can achieve with proper and correct mapping. The Riney Dyno is with the 240 Metz. The Propipe Dyno is with the Avon 250. I will let Craig chime in on the DynaStar Technology. I know it is a company out of Germany/Netherlands that their technology is based around the Dynometer, which is basically the same technology as Dynojet, but with a different company name. Go to the link below.

www.dynastar.com

quote:Originally posted by wip

great #'s ed.[^] can't wait to get my rineys off and put my pro-pipe on 2 c, hear, & feel the difference....
question(s), r those sae #'s? and i notice that is dynostar not dynojet. dunno if there could b a difference or not between the 2.[?]
and those riney #'s r with the 240kit as well..??...
anyhoo, great job, and now u got me wanting to hurry up and get my pro-pipe on.....[/emoticons/emotion-4.gif][8D]well done ed, well done.
btw- i didn't need a pic of craig's butt...HA!!!!![/emoticons/emotion-5.gif][/emoticons/emotion-2.gif]
just tzn.[/emoticons/emotion-3.gif)]

 

No. My rinehart map was made at Naults Honda.

quote:Originally posted by fcwarrior

Very nice numbers...congrats!! Has Craig ever run your bike on the dyno with the Rineharts?

 

Nice numbers for a nice looking bike you've got it all Ed!

 

If I'm reading the details correctly I have to question whether you gained HP & torque over just the pipe change.You had a different man tuning & a different belt & pulley.If you changed only the pipes & not the belt & pulley & tuner then you may have gained very little.I'm just stating that I would have liked to seen what the real gain would be if just the pipes only had changed & not the tuner & the belt & pulley.I agree that Craig would do a better job than a stealership just for the fact he's a forum member with his reputation @ stake on this forum.When he gets good reviews here it's good business for him.Thanks for the pix.It's always cool to see & read.

 

quote:Originally posted by BusaMan

If I'm reading the details correctly I have to question whether you gained HP & torque over just the pipe change.You had a different man tuning & a different belt & pulley.If you changed only the pipes & not the belt & pulley & tuner then you may have gained very little.I'm just stating that I would have liked to seen what the real gain would be if just the pipes only had changed & not the tuner & the belt & pulley.I agree that Craig would do a better job than a stealership just for the fact he's a forum member with his reputation @ stake on this forum.When he gets good reviews here it's good business for him.Thanks for the pix.It's always cool to see & read.


+1 too many variables for a fair comparison....

 

I just went from bub chambermaids to propipe w/monster baffles, and the butt dyno says IT MAKES MORE pOwEr!! Torque increase was very noticable thruout the rpm range. I guess I need to find a good dyno guy in the Chattanooga, TN area

 

Wow DS I'm super impressed. I have always felt the torque curve is more important than a few HP numbers on this bike. But that set up has it all. 100+ ft/lbs form beginning to end. Can't get much better than that!!!!

As far as the # of variables, No problem here! Good Dyno time and competent operators are not cheap.

 

Excellent [/emoticons/emotion-2.gif] Now go back to the 200in tire and you will really be rockin [/emoticons/emotion-3.gif)]

 

I have seen a couple of Craigs posts, he is very knolegable, and I wish he lived closer to me

 

Putting all the variables aside for one moment and lets go to the Butt O Meter....I have previously run the Propipe for close to 4 riding seasons. Anyone who knows me knows these facts about me. When I changed over to the Rineharts I knew I lost power, but I was willing to sacrafice for the looks and sound of the Riney's....then I got tired of not reaching the full potential of what I have for a power plant under me when I ride.

Now, lets take the Rineharts out of the topic completely......

The Propipe ROCKS! MY Butt O Meter has me 100% convinced of the awesome power the pipe provides on its own. Hey, I could sit here and tell you folks what I am putting down for numbers without providing documented proof and call it a day. What amazes me is the folks questioning the variables and results are the same folks who run power sucking exhaust systems. I provided the information, documented. If it makes you all feel better to convince yourself otherwise then so be it, but I know for a fact that when I twist it up there is no comparision between the Propipe and the Rineharts when it comes down to power to the pavement. This has been proven by Craig and it has been proven from professional folks at Patrick Racing, Orient Express and Frankenstein.

King of Power is The Propipe! End of Story!

 

There is no comparison. The neck snapping torque is very impressive at 137 ftlbs. @ 3625 rpm's. I would lose the monster baffle. It does not compare to the V&H Competition Baffle.


quote:Originally posted by 1700ccmaniac

I just went from bub chambermaids to propipe w/monster baffles, and the butt dyno says IT MAKES MORE pOwEr!! Torque increase was very noticable thruout the rpm range. I guess I need to find a good dyno guy in the Chattanooga, TN area

 

I didn't think ed was running a 1 1/2" belt and pulley @ the time of the last tune ?
Anyhow - no bought a dought it *LOL* The pro-pipe is the king of power !.

I'll like that endcap.. Maybe i'll have to get 1

Kyle