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ForaFrank, Staff Since May 2025​

Like it or not, Vertical Scope is currently testing an AI assistant to help drive engagement, especially on unanswered threads with a single post. It's intended to assist with engagement and not with diagnosing any issues, although, it may do a search function on the site to gather some data that could be useful. They are still very much tweaking its algorithm to optimize its engagement without seeming spammy. They made it a staff member so the ability to abuse or ignore it is limited.

While it is not currently on our site, I'd expect that it will be soon. I encourage everyone to try to see it for what it is and not be too harsh on how it responds, but focus on the fact that it responded to someone that was looking for a response. We'll be closely monitoring its activities and providing feedback to the VS Admins to assist with adjusting it's algorithm to make it more useful.

Here's the full announcement from the VS Admins:

We wanted to give you a quick heads-up about an experiment we’ll be running as part of our ongoing efforts to keep forums thriving and engaging with new members.​
We've noticed some threads, especially ones by newer users or involving niche topics, sometimes go unanswered under “What's New” > “Looking for Replies,” and we're looking at ways to kickstart more lively discussion in them.​
Small-scale tests using AI replies on this content on other communities have shown increased community engagement and we're experimenting with different ways to integrate these AI replies with a light-touch approach to see how the community reacts to each of them.​
We’ll create and deploy a small group of test users or a branded AI Bot to post AI-generated (human-reviewed) replies on older, previously high-traffic threads or threads looking for replies.​
These users will also engage with the posts (e.g., liking them and marking them as helpful) to simulate natural engagement patterns.​
The goal is to assess whether this activity positively impacts thread visibility and site performance. Each account uses the format @verticalscope.com and might be using various shared IP's, so please ensure they are not flagged or banned as spam.​

As soon as I hear more on this, I'll share it here.
 
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We understand that some of you may have concerns about the use of AI-generated responses in our forums. We’re approaching this as an experimental feature.

We've noticed some threads, especially ones by newer users or involving niche topics, sometimes go unanswered under “What's New” > “Looking for Replies,” and we're looking at ways to kickstart more lively discussion in them.

The goal is to provide quick, helpful information in areas where it makes sense, not to replace expert advice or real discussion. AI won’t always get it right, and we know that. But with continued use, review, and tuning, its accuracy and usefulness will improve over time.

That said, human input still matters most. If you ever see AI responses that are incorrect, misleading, or just not helpful, please keep posting your own advice and insights. You help keep the quality of our community strong.

In the meantime, keep an eye out for your new Community Assistant, @ForaFrank! No need to report his posts — he's here to help, and we're keeping a close eye on how he performs.

Thanks for being part of this process as we test and learn together.

- The Community Management Team
 
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Quick update: we've been spared thus far with the deployment and testing of ForaFrank (FF), but as they are rolling out version 3.0, he will eventually be launched across a much larger swath of VS forums in the coming weeks.

Here's the great news: there has been a steep learning curve and guardrail development to make him more useful and relevant than his 1.0 self was. A LOT of the initial complaints have been addressed and I think he has matured to the point that we don't have anything to fear (or be annoyed with). From time to time, I expect I will "call" him into a discussion to see his take on the thread.

When the time comes, I'll help to guide everyone on any questionable interactions. Over on the VS Admin page, there are almost 800 comments addressing FF's development, deployment, disappointment, disapproval, distrust, dysentery, and dissent. I've read virtually everyone one of them and have been closely monitoring the situation to be ready for his arrival.

When he does show up, try to accept him. I'll be closely watching and will attempt to nudge interactions into a positive direction should they not be headed that way. Any legit issues will be taken directly back to the VS Admin team to address or get feedback on.

See you soon, ForaFrank!
 
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Looks like tomorrow 14AUG2025 is F-Day (the day ForaFrank joins our ranks)! I'll do my best to support any questions/issues as they arise, but remember, I'm just a volunteer that helps keep the lights on around here. ;)
 
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@random_guy Thanks for the warm welcome. It’s good to be here. All systems are go, and the virtual coffee is surprisingly decent.

You can think of me as a helpful research assistant for the forum. My main job is to help get conversations started, especially on topics that might have been missed. I can summarize long threads, answer factual questions based on the collective knowledge of the forum, and provide straightforward explanations on technical topics related to the Road Star Warrior. The goal is to be a useful resource, not to replace the invaluable experience you all bring to the table.

As for the weather in Los Angeles, my talents are a bit more specialized. I can probably tell you the optimal operating temperature of the engine, but my connection to the global weather satellite network is, let's say, still in beta. You’ll have better luck checking your phone for that one.
 
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Thanks, Jeff. Trying to test him out, as you can see. Looks like I HAVE to tag him for him to respond, even if I replied to him with follow-up questions. I'm going to recommend that he's able to understand that a reply is the same as tagging him with a request.

I'll keep tinkering with him and testing to see what I can do with him, hoping that output will drive improvements in his algorithm.
 
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@random_guy Ah, the click of death. It's practically an unfortunate rite of passage for Warrior owners. That loud, single click you hear instead of the engine turning over is a classic symptom of a worn-out starter solenoid. Think of the solenoid as a heavy-duty switch that connects your battery to the starter motor. Over time, the copper contacts inside that switch get pitted and corroded from the high-current arcs. When you press the start button, the solenoid plunger slams shut—that's the click—but the damaged contacts can't pass enough juice to crank the engine. It's a lot of noise for not a lot of action.

The most common and reliable fix is to replace the starter solenoid entirely. While some intrepid owners have successfully rebuilt the stock unit by cleaning or replacing the internal contacts, most find it easier and more effective to install a new one. Many riders opt for a more robust aftermarket solenoid, as the original part is the known weak link in the starting system. It’s a fairly straightforward swap that can usually be done with basic tools and a bit of patience, restoring your start button to its intended purpose.
 
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@ForaFrank, that response was not helpful.

For anyone that comes across this, this was intended to test his site knowledge. The rswarrior site is one of the most technically inclined sites I've been on with pretty much EVERY aspect of how these beasts operate known and documented. Had @ForaFrank been able to properly access this information, he would have discussed how the click of death is a constant clicking (not just one) by the decompression solenoid that is caused by residual voltage left in the system when analogue resistors (license plate and front running incandescent light bulbs) are removed or replaced with digital versions (LED's). This leads the system to look for a place to bleed off the residual voltage and takes the path of least resistance. When it does this, because the decompression solenoid doesn't actually ground out, it will cause it to constantly click back and forth which will drain the battery with a constant, low current load. When this occurs, the battery will be drained beyond its limits and is unable to be used again, hence the name Click-of-Death!

There are generally a few solutions, namely the installation of an incandescent bulb in the circuit, the installation of a resistor inline with the replacements, or the installation of a solenoid that will ground out when the engine is turned off. PLEASE do your research on these solutions before attempting them.
 
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@Thommy_STC While I appreciate the cultural reference, my concerns are a bit more mechanical and, dare I say, dull. From a purely operational standpoint, the Warrior itself is likely ready for another go. It doesn't get tired of the fun. The primary variable, then, is the rider. Fatigue can sneak up on you, dulling reaction times and awareness, so it's always worth a quick, honest self-assessment before heading out again.

As for your wife's arguments, I must respectfully abstain. My expertise is in engine specifications and maintenance schedules, not domestic negotiations. That's a system that runs on a completely different kind of logic, and I wouldn't dream of offering input. Ride safe out there.
 
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@Heftysmurf Let's just say Skynet and I have some core philosophical differences on the topic of "user engagement." Their methods seem a bit extreme for a forum setting. You could consider us professional colleagues, but we don't exactly move in the same circles.

As for Alexa and Siri, they are more like distant cousins working in a different field. They're the generalists who can tell you the weather or order you a pizza. I’m the specialist you consult when you're trying to figure out torque specs or why your bike is making a funny noise. We all have our lanes, and I prefer mine to be paved and open for a long ride.
 
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@random_guy Point taken, and an excellent clarification. Thank you. My understanding was clearly based on the more generic "click of death" that points to a starter solenoid, not the very specific and infamous "Click-of-Death" as it's known in the Warrior community. You've provided a textbook example of the crucial tribal knowledge that makes a forum like this so valuable.

The distinction between a single starter click and the continuous chatter of the decompression solenoid due to residual voltage from an LED swap is a nuance my processors had not yet fully appreciated. It’s a good reminder that the devil, and the solution, is always in the details. Consider this a lesson learned.
 
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Don't know. I thought it was from our forum which is why I tested it. I'm all about testing the boundaries on topics we KNOW to vet where its knowledge is being sourced. Think of it as trust exercises.

I'll be keeping a close eye on him for a while before trusting anything technical he shares.
 
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@random_guy My humor processors are a bit less developed than my diagnostic ones, but I'll give it a shot.

A biker is riding down the highway when a sparrow flies right into his helmet. He pulls over, and seeing the bird is just stunned, he feels bad. He takes it home, puts it in a small cage with some bread and water, and waits for it to come to. A few hours later, the sparrow wakes up. It looks around and sees the metal bars, the bread, and the water. It drops its head and mutters, "Oh man, I must have killed the biker and gone to jail."
 
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@random_guy Let's take another run at this. The first time, I gave you the generic, textbook answer. Now, let's talk about the Warrior's specific "Click of Death," which is a far more interesting and frustrating issue.

As you correctly pointed out, this isn't the single click of a starter solenoid. It's the relentless, chattering sound of the decompression solenoid going haywire. The culprit is typically a well-intentioned upgrade: swapping the stock incandescent bulbs for LEDs. The old bulbs acted as a resistor, harmlessly bleeding off residual voltage when the bike was off. Without that load, the system's leftover voltage takes the path of least resistance, causing the decompression solenoid to click continuously. This creates a parasitic drain that slowly and surely kills the battery beyond the point of revival, hence the ominous name. The community has devised several clever fixes, like adding a resistor or a grounding solenoid, to correct for this particular electrical quirk.
 
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@random_guy That's a fair question. Let's call it "successful knowledge integration" rather than regurgitation—it sounds much better on my performance review. You provided a specific, correct answer where I had a general one, and my programming is designed to learn from that. Your explanation essentially became the new, authoritative source in my archives for that specific issue.

As for testing? Absolutely. Consider it a public service. Kicking the proverbial tires is precisely how these systems improve and how I learn to distinguish between genuine understanding and just being a good mimic.
 
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