Jimbo the 02 model is adjustable for spring preload that is the most basic suspension adjustment: setting sag.(primary factor weight) I have an article on this and can be applied to the Warrior.But the main concern here are sport bikes. Ask me if you want more. Good Luck!

 

Ya,ya Pen
We want more !!

Kyle

 

About the only other consideration I can think of given you are using the stock shock is not to overspring it. Using too stiff of a spring will overide the damping ability of the shock and it will become very bouncy and harsh. I don't know if this helps you or not but the 900 or 1000 lb springs are probably about maximum for our dampers. Just my opinion.

 

Wolfhound is correct in that the shock on the 02 bikes are oversprung. Going to 900 or 100lb spring will only hurt. Sure you will not bottom but you will kill the shock in a short time. A few things happed.
1 the shock used flexable disks to slow the flow of oil, the more disc the stiffer the stack and the slower the oil moves. Because the shocks are so cheap the spring on the stock bike forces the oil past the shim stack to fast and the bike hops under braking and rebounds to fast after a bump so on accel. the rear tire can loose contact as you go over bumps.
2 as the oil goes past the stack small bubbles are formed then as the oil heats up, which happens faster because you are frocing it through the stack with too large a spring the air expands and the oil foams. Now the shock is worthless because while oil can not be compressed air can. So before the shim stack can come into play the air must be compressed and then it will expand again giving a wallowing feel.
3 once this starts to happen you get 2 sensations the first is that the shock is to soft because you are bottoming out all the time. This is because the shock is no longer doing it's job. Second is the shock is to stiff because it rebounds to fast.

So you see that going to a stiffer spring on the stock shock will help in not bottoming the bike but it will cause all of the things above to be worse. So your rear tire will be bouncing all over the place. But hey you will not bottom out!

The best thing to do is ride it till the rear shock goes **** up or if like me you save upenough money (might be a while /emoticons/emotion-6.gif ) then call works performance and order a shock that is set up for your weight and riding style.
http://www.worksperformance.com/
21045 Osborne Street • Canoga Park • CA, 91304 • USA • Phone (81/emoticons/emotion-11.gif 701-1010

 

Daimon,

So you're saying to upgrade the shock and spring at the same time, if necessary, to get the best of not bottom out and the reliability and useability of the shock together?

 

Yes also the new shock will be rebuildable so it will last a life time. The stocker is just like on a car it will wear out. and as cheap as it is I am guessin 10,000 miles is all it will go. Just like your car it will go slow so you do not notice it.

I raced dirt bikes for 30 years and set up suspensions every day. Trust me, call works give them all the info. Then ask for recomendations for the Forks. A spring and oil change there too match the rear and you will end up with a balanced system. You will think you are on a different bike.

 

I've owned Works and Ohlin shocks on my quads and dirtbikes for years, they both make excellent products (like landing on a pillow from 15'[/emoticons/emotion-1.gif]). I'll see what they have to say... and post the answers, thanks.

 

Cool I looked at their site but the section was own. I raced works on my quad for years as well then switched to PEP. But works is the only add I ever saw that listed the RSW.

 

you talk about shocks and springs on 02's what about 03's? should be the same huh?

 

The 03 added a rebound adjustment. I have not been on an 03 so I can not really say but I can tell you the shock is still crap. I would guess the shock is still set up for the stock spring though and there will not be enough adjustment to correct for a heavy spring. Remember Yamaha buys from the lowest bidder. In a few miles you will need to replace it same as on a car. You ever notice how much differance a new set of shocks makes? Now try a really good shock! Better yet have the suspension taylored to your weight riding style and road conditions and think how much better life will be.

 

I went with the 930lb spring because with the PCS lowering kit and me being a big guy, I bottomed out the stock spring very easily. I just figured the 1000lb spring was too stiff for even a big guy like myself. I adjusted the shock almost all the way down. Seems to ride great right now. I do wonder if an upgraded shock will make it better.

 

I put in a call to works to get a price but they were very busy. As soon as I have info I will post it.

DT you are like me a big feller lol the stock shock was meant to be ridden by a dude between 140 and 180lb so yes you need a better shock. Your big butt does the same as mine and we blow through the valving.

Also I found the shock does not like to be run with no preload so I would try bumping some back in with the spring and seeing what it does.

 

my last bike was a ducati monster & when i set up the suspension it was alot more comfortable. i want a shock i can adjust for highway (soft) & canyon carving (stiffer)in less than 10 minutes or a shock with a progressive spring rate that will handle both conditions. works performance aint cheap but you probebly get what you pay for

 

I agree with Daimon. At some point the spring is only as good as the shock. A good shock is a better option. Jimbo I love those shocks also

 

So your tellin me I gotta spend more money on a new shock now too! Great. /emoticons/emotion-1.gif

 

Good reason to buy Tricky Air.

 

whats that tricky air sell for, like 600 or somethin?

 

I believe it's $695 no matter where you get it.

 

quote:Originally posted by Wolfhound

I believe it's $695 no matter where you get it.


Ouch!

 

I am not sold on air systems. Some that I have seen are just mounting points so you can raise and lower the bike which still does nothing about the shock. Others replace the shock with an air ofer hydrolic system and then you start having air compresability problems. Not the lease of which is that if you use compressed air instead of oxygen and their is any oil in the air system (common on many compressors) then when you compress the air on a bump you just made a diesel motor down there. Thats right BANG!!!!! Ask us old dumb ases who knoew better than the FOX factory and figured air would work on their system. I blowed one up.

 

So Daimon, I know that works site does not give any info about a warrior shock but what would you think it should cost when they produce one? It sounds like you have a bit of knowledge and Im just trying to get a ballpark.

 

I have been trying to call them to find out but for a quad shock with no piggyback res. You are talking like $600.

 

quote:Originally posted by Daimon1054

I have been trying to call them to find out but for a quad shock with no piggyback res. You are talking like $600.

Once again, ouch!

 

Again I really am not sure a quad has 11" travel and has to take a lot more abuse. But I am sure they sell more of them so that may affect price. I called and have not been called back, I think others need to try as well and whoever gets through post the price and lead time.

 

Free if you are in the LA area! Ask for Tom tom@worksperformance.com.
They need a bike in the San Fenando Valley and want a bike to fit, you get the shock for free when done and the sale price will be between 469 and 799 depending on the complexity. I am guesing the lower range because this is not a complex shock.