[fruitjacket]

quote:Originally posted by saweetandlow

hey i was wondering if you could help me out?
i did the BAK and the power comander last night and when i try to start it it just spinns and back fires. i am geting the codes of 13 , 16 ,25, but i dont know what to fix them..

quote:Originally posted by sc186

Well, I finished everything up including the AIS blockoff and my problem was a wrong IAP connection. One I fixed that little snafu she fired right up.

One funny thing I noticed is that if the idle adjust is turned in too much, the bike will start and idle but it will surge and act like it has a vacuume leak. All I need now is a PCIII to get rid of the slight stumble off idle.

THanks a bunch for all of the help. I really appreciate it.



Go back to page 1 of this thread. The error codes are there.
Sounds like 2 shorts and a stuck sensor.
My guess is if you relocated your sensors you probably have them hooked up wrong.

 

[saweetandlow]

ok thanks
quote:Originally posted by fruitjacket

quote:Originally posted by saweetandlow

hey i was wondering if you could help me out?
i did the BAK and the power comander last night and when i try to start it it just spinns and back fires. i am geting the codes of 13 , 16 ,25, but i dont know what to fix them..

quote:Originally posted by sc186

Well, I finished everything up including the AIS blockoff and my problem was a wrong IAP connection. One I fixed that little snafu she fired right up.

One funny thing I noticed is that if the idle adjust is turned in too much, the bike will start and idle but it will surge and act like it has a vacuume leak. All I need now is a PCIII to get rid of the slight stumble off idle.

THanks a bunch for all of the help. I really appreciate it.



Go back to page 1 of this thread. The error codes are there.
Sounds like 2 shorts and a stuck sensor.
My guess is if you relocated your sensors you probably have them hooked up wrong.

 

[messx03]

These are prime examples of how important it is to label , label , label when disassembling parts. If you take a hose off , label the hose and the fitting it came off of . I just use a roll of masking tape and a permanent marker, Its worked for everything so far.

 

[saweetandlow]

so is there any way you can help me straigten this mess out.
we marked the stuff with zip ties but we had to take it a part 2 or 3 times so it must of got out of wack then. i have no idea were to even start. i have changed the plugs but no matter how i do it. it tells me the same codes. how do you get rid of the codes once you make a change? undo the battery???
quote:Originally posted by messx03

These are prime examples of how important it is to label , label , label when disassembling parts. If you take a hose off , label the hose and the fitting it came off of . I just use a roll of masking tape and a permanent marker, Its worked for everything so far.

 

[saweetandlow]

hey there i think we are in the same boat. did you ever find out witch sensors are witch. i think we did the samething you did.
quote:Originally posted by sc186

I know that the pressure sensors are wired up correctly, although I did not take the time to differentiate betwen #1 and #2 sensors becuase I figured that they are essentailly identiacal.

I will check the coils even though I did mark them when taking everything apart.

 

[sc186]

Yes I did.

I wrongfully assumed that the two IAP sensors with the same part numbers would be used for the Manifold pressure when one of them was for atmospheric pressure. I toggled back and forth with the three sensors for a bit until she fired up.

Another thing, make sure the LCV can breathe. I had routed the LCV intake to a filter and had inadvertantly kinked the hose. Upon startup the bike would struggle to keep an idle until warm.

There is a way to clear the codes by toggling through the sensors using the select and reset buttons. I believe it is one of the highest numerically located.

If you REALLY need me to I will pull my tank and snap a picture for you.

 

[saweetandlow]

if you would that would be great this thing is still kicking my butt.
quote:Originally posted by sc186

Yes I did.

I wrongfully assumed that the two IAP sensors with the same part numbers would be used for the Manifold pressure when one of them was for atmospheric pressure. I toggled back and forth with the three sensors for a bit until she fired up.

Another thing, make sure the LCV can breathe. I had routed the LCV intake to a filter and had inadvertantly kinked the hose. Upon startup the bike would struggle to keep an idle until warm.

There is a way to clear the codes by toggling through the sensors using the select and reset buttons. I believe it is one of the highest numerically located.

If you REALLY need me to I will pull my tank and snap a picture for you.

 

[saweetandlow]

if you want you can email them to me at thompsond@tx.rr.com
thanks for the help.
quote:Originally posted by sc186

Yes I did.

I wrongfully assumed that the two IAP sensors with the same part numbers would be used for the Manifold pressure when one of them was for atmospheric pressure. I toggled back and forth with the three sensors for a bit until she fired up.

Another thing, make sure the LCV can breathe. I had routed the LCV intake to a filter and had inadvertantly kinked the hose. Upon startup the bike would struggle to keep an idle until warm.

There is a way to clear the codes by toggling through the sensors using the select and reset buttons. I believe it is one of the highest numerically located.

If you REALLY need me to I will pull my tank and snap a picture for you.

 

[sc186]

OK. Give me a few minutes.

 

[saweetandlow]

can you tell me the last 4 number on the sencer that you have the gray pluged into. it you have two with the same # and one with a difrant #
quote:Originally posted by sc186

OK. Give me a few minutes.

 

[sc186]

You've got mail.

 

[alanh]

quote:

Originally posted by sc186

I wrongfully assumed that the two IAP sensors with the same part numbers would be used for the Manifold pressure when one of them was for atmospheric pressure. I toggled back and forth with the three sensors for a bit until she fired up.

I got to challenge your statement! [}

] [

]

Here's an earlier topic. Posted - 12/10/2007 : 09:38:37 AM
sensor numbers:http://www.rswarrior.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=60312

Taken from my '04' Warrior

IAP Sensors Cyl's 1 &2 (Grey Plug) on bottom!
5JW-82380
-00
E1T24772
3223
Cyl 1: Pink/White
Cyl 2: Pink/Yellow-Grey Plug

Atmospheric Sensor-No Vacuum Hose on top!
5JW-82380
-00
E1T24772
4107
Solid Pink Wire

 

[sc186]

Perhaps the sensors are interchangable so long as the correct harness corresponds to the desired input. For instance, your 4107 sensor could be interchanged with any of the 3223 sensors so long as the pressure sources were changes as well. Anyone know what the four bolt type digits of the part number correspond to?

 

[sc186]

Where were you when I needed wire colors two months ago[/emoticons/emotion-2.gif]

My sensor part numbers are as follows:

5JW 82380-00
EIT 24772

one is 6928 while the two others are 6920

 

[alanh]

quote:Originally posted by sc186

Perhaps the sensors are interchangable so long as the correct harness corresponds to the desired input. For instance, your 4107 sensor could be interchanged with any of the 3223 sensors so long as the pressure sources were changes as well.
NO WAY!
I've been down this road before w/others and on more than just one Continent [/emoticons/emotion-5.gif]
The AP sensor has no vacuum line [^]
The PN's indicated are from my '04' USA Warrior. They are not Yamaha!

Anyone know what the four bolt type digits of the part number correspond to?

 

[alanh]

quote:Originally posted by sc186

Where were you when I needed wire colors two months ago[/emoticons/emotion-2.gif]
I don't normally respond to DIY BAK members as they are Type A personality and end up screwing things up [/emoticons/emotion-2.gif] [/emoticons/emotion-5.gif]

It's in the factory manual schematic. Items 17-19
Also, note the date of the referenced original topic was from last year.
If you had used the Search feature with AlanH as 1 of the parameters it was have brought up the info quickly. I believe someone in Australia had the connectors mixed up

My sensor part numbers are as follows:

5JW 82380-00
EIT 24772

one is 6928 while the two others are 6920


6928 = the AP sensor [^] but with your logic maybe not [/emoticons/emotion-2.gif] JK [/emoticons/emotion-5.gif]

Yes, the bike in Australia also had different PN's but 2 of the numbers were the same [/emoticons/emotion-1.gif]

 

[sc186]

quote:Originally posted by AlanH

quote:Originally posted by sc186

Perhaps the sensors are interchangable so long as the correct harness corresponds to the desired input. For instance, your 4107 sensor could be interchanged with any of the 3223 sensors so long as the pressure sources were changes as well. NO WAY!Well, ive already proven that it WILL work as my bike is setup like this and runs awesome with NO error codes. Unless you can show me what the four digit designations mean and that they are indeed for different purposes, you are wrong. All 3 sensors have the same part number, excluding the four digits whose meaning has yet to be explanied to me, and serve to measure pressure.
I've been down this road before w/others and on more than just one Continent [/emoticons/emotion-5.gif] The fact that your personal experience differs from others doesnt make you any more correct than they or I. Just different. The AP sensor has no vacuum line [^]ANd when did I state that it did?The PN's indicated are from my '04' USA Warrior. They are not Yamaha! THey look just like mine, save the four digit mystery numbers


Anyone know what the four bolt type digits of the part number correspond to?

 

[sc186]

Well, hopefully saweetandlow is able to weed through all this banter and find what he is looking for.

 

[sc186]

quote:Originally posted by AlanH

quote:Originally posted by sc186

Where were you when I needed wire colors two months ago[/emoticons/emotion-2.gif]
I don't normally respond to DIY BAK members as they are Type A personality and end up screwing things up [/emoticons/emotion-2.gif] [/emoticons/emotion-5.gif]

It's in the factory manual schematic. Items 17-19
Also, note the date of the referenced original topic was from last year.
If you had used the Search feature with AlanH as 1 of the parameters it was have brought up the info quickly. I believe someone in Australia had the connectors mixed up

My sensor part numbers are as follows:

5JW 82380-00
EIT 24772

one is 6928 while the two others are 6920


6928 = the AP sensor [^] but with your logic maybe not [/emoticons/emotion-2.gif] JK [/emoticons/emotion-5.gif]
Thats what I assumed when I first undertook this project. I, however, was wrong.
Yes, the bike in Australia also had different PN's but 2 of the numbers were the same [/emoticons/emotion-1.gif]

 

[sc186]

Thanks for the amateur psychoanalysis.

Cant find anything specifically citing the four digits, only which harness corresponds to which pressure source. My apparently flawed logic would suggest that one pressure transducer is as good as the next, so long as its output matched that within an expected tolerance.